re: Texas moves one step closer to leaving US

Voting yes just for the shitshow

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The US is pretty screwed without the Texas O&G industry (18 Billion barrels last year).



This is mind-bogglingly stupid. Like, I feel sorry for some of you for being this dumb.

ok, tell us what this new free market O&G industry friendly country is going to do to stop the flow of O&G to the US?

You gonna cripple the O&G industry in order to stick it to the US? lol wow. The O&G industry must be chomping at the bit to get you idiots in power.

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Well first off Texas actually sells a lot of it's oil to Europe and around the world.

That said the greater point is it makes no sense for Texas or the US not to freely trade with each other. Both could hurt each other, but why? It's not like Texas would be a worse partner than Mexico or Canada.

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Every measure-able aspect of life would get worse and more expensive for no less than a generation.

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thank God the Framers weren’t scared away by this

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A couple more stolen elections and a another 5 or 10 million more illegal aliens invading the state might do it, 10 years?

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Exactly how would two separate nations work? Who gets the military bases (not just the ones here, the ones overseas as well), the over 3,000 nuclear warheads, the navy, and the biggest one of all, who gets to keep the American dollar?

Likely neither.

America in 2023 is the largest economy in the world, and there is almost no way that if it were split in two each part would still generate half the total. For one thing, American blue-backs and red-backs would not equal a greenback. We'd be talking about currencies for two brand new countries, almost certainly fiat currencies, and it is extremely likely that other nations simply wouldn't accept those currencies. For sure, neither would be the world standard reserve currency.

Then you have the geographical realities of trying to balkanize the US. There's just no way to do it realistically.

So we won't (ever) get divorced IMO. Or if we do, it would take a hell of a lot more than disagreeing over public policy to make it happen. We'd have to be near dead as a country to begin with for it to even be an option on the table.

What would be much more likely is a revolution, and that's not much more likely.

As in, not a snowball's chance in hell.

Way too much bread. Way too many circuses.

American life is still way too comfortable for people to take up arms and revolt en mass, not to mention, this isn't 1865 anymore.

When roughly only half the people in the country who are eligible can even be bothered to go vote every four years, what are the chances that enough Americans are up for risking their lives to overthrow/re-establish the federal government of the United States?

Zero, I say.

IMO we will either go one of two directions. We will either stay the current course or we will trend back toward more federalism and let people who want traditional values find those values supported by state governments in red states and let people who want "progressive" values find those values in blue states. But even that is quite unlikely, as the federal government would have to be shrunk quite a bit for us to even be able to do that.

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Every measure-able aspect of life would get worse and more expensive for no less than a generation.

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For far longer than that. And regardless, unilateral secession isn't going to be accepted internationally except from other breakaway states and enemies of the US.

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Who do you and beepnode think will do all this fighting for our corrupt fegov?

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Uh, lots of people.

Well if Texas is TEXIT, then Florida can be frickIT

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How about air traffic control? Does Texas already have in place the software in place that the FAA has spent years developing? Might be out of date or whatever but you might could buy some from Mexico. Air traffic controllers for some of the world's busiest airports? What a 1 year shut down on those airports going to cost the republic? Texas is world famous for the medicine and research.

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Ever been to a “private DMV”?

Show me something being managed by the government that the private sector couldn’t do better
My point is that there are a million ways to provide those services- more efficiently- than to just have the feds do it

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Because they had far more stake in the political economy than you do.

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wow. something tells me you have an overinflated sense of self

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American life is still way too comfortable for people to take up arms and revolt en mass, not to mention, this isn't 1865 anymore.

When roughly only half the people in the country who are eligible can even be bothered to go vote every four years, what are the chances that enough Americans are up for risking their lives to overthrow/re-establish the federal government of the United States?

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I agree with your logic based on those factors, but throw in the mix civil unrest, and or some unforeseen crisis(banking system fails, power grid fails, etc) things could go off the rail quickly. Possibly made worse by the federal governments actions to maintain control on population.
Tensions continue to increase and eventually will explode. IMHO