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re: Texas moves one step closer to leaving US

Posted on 12/2/23 at 3:55 pm to
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 3:55 pm to
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Who do you and beepnode think will do all this fighting for our corrupt fegov?

Every single facet of the federal government, along with the huge amount of Texans that don’t vote for independence in that scenario.

The latter is one of my favorite part of this LARP. The TNM people don’t seem to comprehend that they are bringing the 46% of Texas’ population that buys into the progressive ruination of America with them.

Texas wouldn’t be some bastion of conservatism and freedom. It would be nothing but a microcosm of the nation it left, with the exact same political and cultural divisions, and all of the same problems.
This post was edited on 12/2/23 at 3:56 pm
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23653 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 3:55 pm to
This is great! Hopefully this will begin a movement of other states to to have this conversation and allow voters to heard.
The seperation of states probably would be similar to the Mason-Dixon line of the past.
I understand how detrimental this would be for our nation, but the direction we're allowing these traitors in DC to lead us will be worse in the end.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37164 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 3:57 pm to
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understand how detrimental this would be for our nation,

Well duh

Every measure-able aspect of life would get worse and more expensive for no less than a generation.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38300 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 4:33 pm to
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The seperation of states probably would be similar to the Mason-Dixon line of the past.
I understand how detrimental this would be for our nation, but the direction we're allowing these traitors in DC to lead us will be worse in the end.


Brush up on your Mandarin if or when that happens.
Posted by bayouboo
Member since Jan 2007
3654 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 4:45 pm to
The U.S. could make it extremely difficult on Texas. If they banned businesses in Texas from doing business in the U.S., how many businesses would stay or relocate. And a large portion of the population would leave as well.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
8680 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 5:11 pm to
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Far too much.

Note: just because the State secedes doesn’t mean that it’s citizens arbitrarily have to renounce US citizenship. Think like a US citizen retiring to Costa Rica. If you’re well vested in SS or other comps, you keep your US citizenship. If you want to be a political leader, or get certain tax state breaks for your biz. You become a citizen of Texas. Easy to fix. Just dig into the US tax code.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19821 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 5:18 pm to
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Who will do the fighting for them?

We do have Yankees and other non-Texans in the military you know.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
9405 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 6:05 pm to
Actually Texas is about +12-14 GOP and if they did this a lot of the liberals would leave, they are already doing so (at least some of the worst ones). The hardcore abortion ban scared a bunch of them away.

I don't have illusions it will be cake and ice cream but I don't think the alternative is looking great either.
Posted by bayouboo
Member since Jan 2007
3654 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 6:25 pm to
Also, the changes to Congress and the Electoral College system would create chaos.
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 6:34 pm to
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Brush up on your Mandarin if or when that happens

Not true you simple bitch
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 6:43 pm to
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We do have Yankees and other non-Texans in the military you know.

Very few southerners, or midwesterners for that matter, would pick up arms against texas. We have too much in common.

As a matter of fact, if texas made a jump I would imagine a massive swath of the US would follow.
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2014
3855 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 7:14 pm to
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We do have Yankees and other non-Texans in the military you know.

Yeah, we've all seen their little tik tok drag videos. Not exactly a fearsome sight.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
9405 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 7:56 pm to
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The U.S. could make it extremely difficult on Texas. If they banned businesses in Texas from doing business in the U.S., how many businesses would stay or relocate. And a large portion of the population would leave as well.




Of course the COULD but Texas could also make life really hard on them if they DID. The US is pretty screwed without the Texas O&G industry (18 Billion barrels last year). Oh and good luck getting around the I35 Corridor for commerce and being cut off from the litany of products made in Houston.
Posted by bayouboo
Member since Jan 2007
3654 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:50 pm to
Commerce would move through Arizona and California pretty quickly. The US would win a war of attrition with Texas on the O&G front.

The US could make it extremely difficult for Texas to pull it off.
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
3965 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:28 pm to

We can not even keep our independent power grid working…
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
5960 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:38 pm to
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So Texas is prepared to take over for air traffic controllers and TSA to keep your busy airports open. Prepared to purchase all of the VA hospitals and pay for the care of veterans? Gonna just let all federal prisoners out and shut down the prisons? That's just a thimble of how the federal government is intertwined in your state. Maybe y'all already have a plan. I would hope but would seriously like to hear it and try to understand it. Seems an impossible task.


Yeah, Texas could probably manage all that, including shipping federal prisoners out of its borders.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:46 pm to
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This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 11:35 pm
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
22377 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:28 pm to
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Can the rest of the South join you?



the florida parrishes can there areb 6 0f them


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Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13359 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:42 pm to
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I do think national divorce will happen one day.


Maybe, but not one day any time soon.

Not in the lifetime of anybody on this board, I'd wager.
This post was edited on 12/2/23 at 10:43 pm
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13359 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:49 pm to
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Yeah, Texas could probably manage all that, including shipping federal prisoners out of its borders.


Could it manage having its own currency, backed by a tangible asset like gold?

I'm no economist, but I would think the fiat currency of a brand new country no longer part of the US might have some serious valuation issues. To the point that other countries—including the US—might not accept the currency.

If so, they would have to buy US dollars from the United States Fed. That could be a big problem for the ROT.

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