re: Texas getting it's own Sharia Law

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did you complain when they were reading gay shite in school?

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Of course they didn’t. They get a little confused on the definition of “religion” when it comes to that

sounds horrible

if i want the jesus shite, i'll send my kid to a parochial or private school

Cry bitch, America was founded on Christian priciples. There are 90% of the countries who will accomodate your communist beliefs and muzzie genocide.

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Nothing, but religion is an option, not a forced on dealio. And if i had a kid, he/she would be going to a catholic/parochial/lutheran grade school, middle, and then HS.

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Lot of things forced on us these days. Jesus should be the least of your worries

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Ezekiel 23:20. “There she lusted after her lovers, whose penises were like those of donkeys and whose ejaculations were like that of horses.”

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The irony of you trying to pull one over is this chapter is about mankind abandoning their covenant with God. Is it age appropriate for say, elementary school? Nope. But anyone in their right mind would now that

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Says the guy who claims Jesus isn’t a historical figure. Everything you say beyond that is worthless because you aren’t operating from anywhere close to even neutral.

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You have presented a fallacious argument. Instead, why don’t you think about what I posted in my response to your Isaiah and Job references and then come up with a legitimate argument.

On the Jesus being historical topic, I’m open to their being some kernel of a historical rabbit from Galilee. He may have been something like the John the Baptizer figure even. His name might have been something other than Jesus. Something like that is plausible. Maybe even approaching likely.

But… the gospels are completely mythical literary works of people highly educated in Greek language, writing, and literature. The miracles and stories attributed to this plausible historical rabbi are obviously fictional.

And… we know the real Paul, and whomever wrote Jude, James, 1 Peter, 1 Clement, Hebrews, Revelation, and the Didache had no knowledge whatsoever of a historical traveling rabbi named Jesus on planet earth. They believed Jesus’ death was a celestial event, and they knew all about him by reinterpretation of the Israelite scriptures (not necessarily the ones or only the ones that made the cut into the canonical Jewish Bible) and by direct revelation through dreams and visions.

So could there have been a real historical man in Galilee named Jesus that the later gospel stories are loosely somewhat based on? The answer is Maybe. But did the Jesus described in the gospels ever exist? The answer is no.

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Ask yourself why you try so hard to “disprove” the Bible. You act like you understand it more than most scholars who study it for a living. All because you read some biased opinions on the internet or some hardcore atheist literature.

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Everything I’ve learned is from scholars in ancient history, Christian origins, philosophy, and some have divinity degrees from seminaries. These are not merely my opinions. They are the facts figured by people who’ve devoted their lives to these subjects.

Michael Heiser (rip), Margaret Barker, Dennis McDonald, Richard Carrier, Robert Price, Richard Friedman, Thomas Thompson, Thomas Brodie, David Fitzgerald. A couple of these are Christians but most are scholars who hold a variant of the Christ-myth theory.

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Amateur is a good term for someone who just scratches the surface yet thinks they’re as good as the professionals. Some of them walk around with their chest out thinking they are better than the professionals. That’s where you fall, sir. You don’t understand as much as you think you do.

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Why don’t you try to address the Isaiah and Job quotes I posted when I explained you didn’t know what you are talking about with the “circle of the earth” business.

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if i want the jesus shite, i'll send my kid to a parochial or private school

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IF…you have kids. I bet you’re fine with all the LBTQLMNOP slop being pushed in schools. That’s fine, turn out some weirdos who live with you for the next 25 years.

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overwhelming preponderance of evidence among biblical and historical scholars is that the gospel we call Matthew - that writer used the gospel we call Mark as a source

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Again, Marcan priority is recognized as one particular theory. Scholars can recognize multiple theories as having explanatory value. You haven't provided any evidence that Marcan priority is the ONLY theory with value.

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The one we call “Mark” probably wasn’t even the original. There are undoubtedly lost gospels that didn’t make the cut and weren’t preserved

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There is absolutely no proof of any of this. None. Why do you have an emotional attachment to these snake oil theories? They're not factual. They're fiction

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That means early Christians fabricated 46 of the 50 gospels out of their imaginations or lies

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Totally untrue. several of the books about Jesus were written by people of Gnostic persuasion. Those are not Christians. Moreover, sometimes, I know this is going to be hard to believe, sometimes people do fake things to, GASP, make money.

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it becomes a fact that early Christians liked to make shite up that suited them

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That is what you call building a castle in the air. Reasonable, sane people don't do this

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because the Bible tells you so

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Ugh. The lazy "circular argument." In philosophy/rhetoric, circular reasoning is not invalid if the premise/principle is reliable/valid in an axiomatic way. You might be surprised we do this all the time, even in science.

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you’re the stupid fricking retard

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Now THAT'S good scholarship right there. Very mature and factual. You invade these threads with complete fiction because you're apparently gullible and emotional but then criticize the rational people.

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That’s a fact.

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It's not a fact and I told you to read some decent commentaries to have the situation explained to you. It's amazing you actually think that stupid, amateurish criticism is legitimate. It's because you're apparently a simpleton. A mental midget who is willing to fall for the simplest snake oil that feeds your emotional feelings about Christianity

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an unsubstantiated miracle without undeniable physical evidence of its occurrence is simply a baseless assertion - a myth

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You can observe the EFFECT of a miracle in the physical world, but how would you know the supernatural CAUSE merely from phenomenal, empirical evidence? You wouldn't. So your characterization is stupid as usual. And BTW, check out Craig Keener's book

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Much of it is unoriginal yes and used earlier sources

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Lazy and refuted many times over. Check out Mary Jo Sharp's work. I know you won't because I've already suggested it and you won't read it. Why is that? Because you're emotional and can't handle someone defending Christianity with actual historical facts instead of laughable attempts to rewrite history. You can probably only produce a handful of Jesus Christ archetypes and every one of them is going to have crucial points of divergence. Let me guess, you want to discuss Osiris. Proceed. I will dismantle that but I know you won't listen

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Your own bible admits that every single Israelite or Jewish king was a filthy polytheist

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This is not true and I've corrected you on this multiple times before yet you remain recalcitrant because of your emotional attachment. I asked you questions that you never answered. Will you actually try to answer them this time?

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This biblical concept is actually supported by archaeological evidence

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It most certainly is not. In fact, the opposite is true

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the people there were practicing Canaanite polytheism

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That does not make them polytheists, certainly not from the beginning. You are still wrong on this issue. This is usually where you start talking about the Elephantine situation, which I've corrected you on that before as well.

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Jesus never existed

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Ok. You need mental help. So what are extrabiblical references to Jesus? References to him from people who were decidedly not Christians

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They believed Jesus was killed in heaven, then went to Hades, then was resurrected and highly exalted by God, and only then did he even earn his name “Jesus”.

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Total and complete fabrication.

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Just read Philippians - Jesus doesn’t earn that name until after his death.

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wow. How about you read Luke 1:31. Or how about Mark 1:1. Also, you said Jesus didn't exist and now you're saying he died. Which is it?

At some point, I hope you ask yourself why you fell for all this nonsense. What were the emotions that caused you to need Christianity to be false such that you were willing to get totally conned?

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When the psalmist writes to praise the firmament, and to praise the waters above the firmament, it is literal

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Perhaps you could explain what ??????? means

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you likely aren’t willing to learn and you don’t have an open mind

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Says the person who won't answer questions about these stupid theories

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Multiple disciplines of science converge and already prove the Adam and Eve myth to be a myth

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They most certainly do not. While I am not an advocate of flood geology, I don't dismiss it out of hand like the dilettante you are. Second, not all people are YEC. But you knew that already didn't you

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If I never answered your questions, it’s because I know my time would be wasted

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There you go. You and SFP. Always excuses for not answering questions. You just want to believe what you want to believe and you don't want to be questioned on it because you have an emotional committment to it. You latch on to whatever half baked theory massages your fragile ego, regardless of facts

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you being unable or unwilling to learn

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Hypocrite