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re: Texas getting it's own Sharia Law
Posted on 6/28/26 at 9:53 pm to AUTigerking
Posted on 6/28/26 at 9:53 pm to AUTigerking
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Rahab in the Bible (outside of the Rahab in Joshua who was a prostitute) symbolizes rebellion and pride.
That differs from the scholarly consensus which is that Rahab is a mythological sea monster of chaos not created by Yahweh but defeated by Yahweh.
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God “cutting Rahab to pieces” illustrates that anything we take pride in will come to nothing and nothing can stand against the supremacy of God.
Take out the pride part, and I would agree with that. The point of the story within the fictitious tale is that Yahweh is so powerful that he and only he - not all the other competing gods - was strong and cunning enough to defeat the chaotic sea monster.
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Order from chaos has nothing to do with Ex nihilo.
Agreed. They represent two competing models of creation.
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The earth was “formless and void” aka chaotic.
Yes, that was the state of the pre-existent universe and earth when Elohim (Yahweh) began to bring form forth from the chaos. The genesis 1 author(s) used the Babylonian creation from chaos myth (or a common source), not a creation from nothing account.
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He still created it…from nothing.
You’ll have to pick from competing ideas. Genesis is not creation from nothing.
Genesis 1:1-2, to make it easier for you to understand, could be:
“When God (Elohim) began to shape the heavens and the earth, the earth was formless/chaotic (Tohu) and waste (Bohu).”
It describes the state of matter at the time Elohim began to give it form. It goes on to say he separated light from darkness and that was the end of the first day. He didn’t create the firmament (which he named “Heaven”) until the second day along with dry land.
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It is now widely known the universe had a beginning. So what’s your explanation of choice?
Widely known by who? Religious apologists? William Lane Craig? Those guys don’t actually know anything about the universe or the scientific method. The consensus of scientists is that the universe had no beginning and no end, and that matter and energy cannot be created nor destroyed.
Did you know that there are some stars that our Webb space telescope can see today but won’t be able to see tomorrow? It’s crazy to think about but there are some stars that are still accelerating away from us and that at some point they begin to move away from us at faster than the speed of light, and so from that point in time forward we will never be able to see the light emitted from it. William Lane Craig didn’t figure that out.
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As far as martyrs…Peter, Paul, James, James, Andrew, Thomas (and many others with less agreement among scholars)
Kudos for admitting this.
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Sources are Acts,
Even though that’s a work of fiction, it is possible that there could be a kernel of historical evidence in there. But that’s just one of Jesus’ disciples.
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Josephus (non Christian), and many of the first church fathers, clement, Ignatius, polycarp, etc
So here-say and rumors from generations later. The truth is most of the deaths of Jesus’ disciples that Christians like to tout are mostly from non-canonical gospels that Christian churches today overwhelmingly reject except for the verses about how some of them died. There were about 50 gospels of Jesus Christ and only 4 made it into your Bible. For instance there are three apocryphal Christian sources stating Bartholomew died in Armenia, Albania, and India.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:06 pm to Byron Bojangles III
Not even close
Supafreak.
Supafreak.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:11 pm to Byron Bojangles III
Good.
There's some good lessons in there.
There's some good lessons in there.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 12:21 am to Roaad
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0% chance this stand up to challenge like, come on
The 5th, en banc, pretty much telegraphed they are going to uphold the 10 Commandment laws. Judge Ho may start hanging up some himself based on his concurrence. I think they would 100% uphold this law no matter how it’s written. Now it totally depends on the texts and application, but it’s pretty difficult to cover a multitude of topics without referencing the Bible, so there’s a way it can be facially neutral and pass strict scrutiny at SCOTUS.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 12:27 am to Squirrelmeister
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The consensus of scientists is that the universe had no beginning and no end
No it’s not haha. The consensus is that it did have a beginning. Might want to brush up on that!
It’s also impossible that it didn’t. We would not be here in this moment if the universe didn’t begin. We could never reach this moment because the past is infinite
Posted on 6/29/26 at 6:52 am to AUTigerking
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No it’s not haha. The consensus is that it did have a beginning. Might want to brush up on that!
No brushing up required. The matter in the observable part of the universe has been rapidly expanding for about 13.8 billion years, but before that it existed in an extremely hot dense compressed state. Matter did not begin to exist. The universe didn’t pop into existence. You need more than a simple brushing up on that subject matter.
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It’s also impossible that it didn’t. We would not be here in this moment if the universe didn’t begin. We could never reach this moment because the past is infinite
Instead of making assertions that have no foundation based on material you don’t understand, why not go back to my posts where I explain Job 27 and 38 and see if the firmament in the sky with windows that let the hail and snow out of their storehouses represent what we know about our reality.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:01 am to Byron Bojangles III
You are an idiot. I mean that as nicely as possible- without sacrificing the gravity of just how ignorant you are.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:05 am to GoblinGuide
The Gospels can't even agree on the timing of Jesus's birth.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:06 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The Bible is a literary work.
1 hundo.
Some books in the Bible are historical, some are fictional and allegory, some spiritual and some of it, messages to others.
All of it accepted as God's word.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:08 am to Azkiger
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The Gospels can't even agree on the timing of Jesus's birth.
Like any spiritual book, read it and let it wash over you. Don't try to chew on it. I wouldn't get hung up on details like this sort of thing.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:08 am to tiggerfan02 2021
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How do we battle secular idiocy like the type you display daily?
We might have to Tony Spell it out for them…
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:11 am to Azkiger
quote:Sure they do. There are a few different ways to reconcile the apparent contradiction of timing.
The Gospels can't even agree on the timing of Jesus's birth.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:21 am to Bigdawgb
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Could you explain this part a little more?? How do you see it taking place??
Of course she can’t. Atheism has no answers; no solutions. Atheism can be compared to the wife, who doesn’t know what she wants to eat- she just doesn’t want whatever it is that you want to eat. No answers.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 10:09 am to FooManChoo
There are a few different ways to attempt to solve it, but none are successful.
Herod the Great died in 4BC, so if he tried to kill Jesus as a baby then Jesus was born on or after 4BC.
Rome did perform a peacetime census on Judea, the specific Roman Governor who did was named in the Bible (Quirinius, governor of Syria). Judea was added into the Syrian providence and counted in 6AD. So if Mary and Joseph were traveling for this census (lol, this is amateur storytelling) then it would be on or right after 6AD.
10 years apart and pointing in the wrong direction.
Imagine writing that Covid happened during the Obama administration and sycophants 2,000 years later twist into pretzels trying to pretend there's an explanation.
The explanation is easy. These were written independently and were dramatized.
Herod the Great died in 4BC, so if he tried to kill Jesus as a baby then Jesus was born on or after 4BC.
Rome did perform a peacetime census on Judea, the specific Roman Governor who did was named in the Bible (Quirinius, governor of Syria). Judea was added into the Syrian providence and counted in 6AD. So if Mary and Joseph were traveling for this census (lol, this is amateur storytelling) then it would be on or right after 6AD.
10 years apart and pointing in the wrong direction.
Imagine writing that Covid happened during the Obama administration and sycophants 2,000 years later twist into pretzels trying to pretend there's an explanation.
The explanation is easy. These were written independently and were dramatized.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 10:38 am to Azkiger
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There are a few different ways to attempt to solve it, but none are successful.
I am looking forward to whatever Foo’s “explanation” will be.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 10:41 am to Squirrelmeister
quote:List all of the relevant scholars who ascribe to that view in comparison to the total of all relevant scholars. Because if you can't, and you can't, you're just making things up
the scholarly consensus
quote:Prove it's not historical. You can't. You just gullibly believed what some kook told you
the fictitious tale
quote:Not that you can prove that. You just believed that because it matches your emotional state
The genesis 1 author(s) used the Babylonian creation from chaos myth (or a common source), not a creation from nothing account
quote:"Could be." As in you have no idea. Go get your BDB and break that passage down for us using real scholarship.
Genesis 1:1-2, to make it easier for you to understand, could be:
quote:Name the scientists who don't believe that cosmological model.
Widely known by who?
quote:And you are extremely gullible.WLC has written numerous books on that topic and has spoken all over the world. The reason why people like him are qualified to speak on the subject is because the scientific method is philosophical, not scientific. But you knew that already, didn't you?
William Lane Craig? Those guys don’t actually know anything about the universe or the scientific method
quote:You don't know the first thing about the consensus of scientists.
The consensus of scientists
quote:Prove it
Even though that’s a work of fiction
quote:Oh so you admit the point is correct?
that’s just one of Jesus’ disciples
quote:Sigh. First, "hearsay." Second, some of the patristics were disciples of the disciples. So, NOT "here-say" generations later. Third, you are blithely dismissing an entire discipline of transmission (oral and textual), likely because you have no idea what you're talking about
So here-say and rumors from generations later
quote:Do you know why? If you did, you wouldn't make stupid Dan Brown, popular level insinuations
There were about 50 gospels of Jesus Christ and only 4 made it into your Bible
You need a complete reset on these matters. People like you know just enough to be dangerous. Your understanding of the history is completely warped by emotion
Posted on 6/29/26 at 10:53 am to Squirrelmeister
quote:First, no human being can justify such a statement. Our laws of physics that we would use to make such an assertion are not applicable prior to Planck time. IOW, no one was there to observe that and no one could even possibly be there. I'm willing to bet you don't even know why. Second, all physical, contingent matter is subject to causation and thus, had a beginning. Anything that doesn't isn't "matter." Third, actual infinites are impossible. Mathematical/theoretical infinites are possible but not not actual, empirical infinites
Matter did not begin to exist
quote:So you make an unprovable assertion and then tell someone else they're ignorant.
The universe didn’t pop into existence. You need more than a simple brushing up on that subject matter.
quote:Hypocrite
Instead of making assertions that have no foundation based on material you don’t understand
quote:I asked you a pertinent question about your interpretation and you are unsurprisingly ignoring it.
firmament in the sky with windows that let the hail and snow out of their storehouses represent what we know about our reality.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 10:54 am to Azkiger
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This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 11:12 am
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:19 am to Squirrelmeister
Squirrel, I don't know if you've caught on to this but you make a TON of assertions you can't prove but you state them as if they are fact. When you get challenged you just wimp out because your emotional state won't let you assess the alternatives in a rational, impartial manner.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:36 am to Prodigal Son
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Atheism has no answers; no solutions.
No one does. There are only suppositions, proposals, hypothesis, theories.
Some are based on the scientific method. Some are just cool stories that rely on blind faith.
Human beings will become extinct before we develop the instrumentation and processes necessary to confirm any theory about how the universe or life came into existence.
It is very interesting stuff to study and debate, though.
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