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re: Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through

Posted on 1/10/19 at 8:10 am to
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 8:10 am to
quote:

But if expert's say there is a better way to prevent illegal border crossings like technology and more CBP officers, why can't we just agree to that and be done

"Experts" aka border patrol say a wall is needed...so we shouldn't ignore those experts
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119034 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 8:11 am to
quote:

But if expert's say there is a better way to prevent illegal border crossings like technology and more CBP officers, why can't we just agree to that and be done?


The wall is just part of that technology.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 8:11 am to
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Great analogy!

and safes can be cracked

I guess that means that banks should just leave money outside their front doors in bags for anyone that wants to come pick it up



No, it means your hire guards and have security deterrents like cameras and alarms.

The most important deterrent in that scenario is the law, ie jail. If we fix immigration law and implement e-verify we get rid of allot of the incentives.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 8:12 am to
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Industrial tools does not equal common tools...




and we all know that these mexicans are known for dragging generators and acetylene tanks through the desert with them
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12270 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 8:13 am to
Another hour and another fake news story.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 8:14 am to
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and we all know that these mexicans are known for dragging generators and acetylene tanks through the desert with them


Yeah a Mexican drug cartel that has built a system of elaborate tunnels couldn't figure this out.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
23199 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 8:15 am to
My god you're stupid.

I'll bet a plasma cutter would work too!

oh well I guess we just need to let them all in.

If the wall is stupid and ineffective then why not let Trump and Rs build it. Then you can laugh at their failures and have a tangible object to point to while laughing.
We know it's not about protecting the taxpayer dollar. The entire Dem platform is based on waste.
This post was edited on 1/10/19 at 8:19 am
Posted by Da Sheik
Trump Tower
Member since Sep 2007
7964 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 8:20 am to
NBC, LOL I stopped reading there
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27212 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 8:23 am to
quote:

it means your hire guards and have security deterrents like cameras and alarms.
and a vault. Don't forget the vault just because a wall does not fit your narrative...
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27212 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 8:24 am to
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Yeah a Mexican drug cartel


do you think they are stupid enough to try to cut through a wall? They are probably a little smarter than you are when it comes to not getting caught...
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 8:28 am to
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Yeah a Mexican drug cartel that has built a system of elaborate tunnels couldn't figure this out.




they can try....and they'll more than likely get caught.


why are you guys so opposed to a wall....other than "because Trump is President"?

i just don't get it.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 8:33 am to
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do you think they are stupid enough to try to cut through a wall? They are probably a little smarter than you are when it comes to not getting caught...


So you are arguing that they will just figure out another way in, even if we have a wall because they are really smart?

What are we even disagreeing about at this point? You just proved the whole point of NOT having the wall.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 8:35 am to
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why are you guys so opposed to a wall...



President George W Bush tried to build a barrier in certain places and it was held up by years of legal wrangling and ultimately abandoned in certain places because people own the land privately. This will probably happen again.
This post was edited on 1/10/19 at 8:36 am
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20475 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 8:38 am to
quote:


Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through


Not when they electrify it.

Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 8:38 am to
quote:

why are you guys so opposed to a wall....other than "because Trump is President"?

i just don't get it.



We learned where the secure fence act worked and where it didn't. Democrats want to put more resources into things that worked and stop things that didn't.

For several reasons already discussed. Building a wall is the most impractical and expensive option.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26364 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 8:40 am to
The Wall, is good for the economy of Mexico. Chainsaw manufacturers, as well as manufacturers of shovels, ladders and explosives will be sprouting up all over that country like mushrooms after a summer thunderstorm.

Muh increased tax revenue! Mexico...will be able to pay for The Wall!
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52920 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 8:40 am to
quote:

tigerinDC09


Wow, i thought this thread was being sarcastic, but you are actually serious.

quote:

Just proves again, this "wall" is a waste of time and money.



So these illegals going to be adding this to their "how to get into America" toolbox?



So now we have

Ladder
Bow and Arrow
Climbing Rope
Big Rock
Rope Swing
Catapult
Large diamond headed saw

Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52920 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 8:41 am to
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So you are arguing that they will just figure out another way in


Kind of proves the success of the wall. So they will go to another access point, not protected by a wall, but heavily patrolled by border patrol. Not seeing the negative here.
Posted by TigerIT
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2013
438 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 8:45 am to
Do you know what a prototype means?
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 8:46 am to
quote:

Kind of proves the success of the wall. So they will go to another access point, not protected by a wall, but heavily patrolled by border patrol. Not seeing the negative here.



This person just said they are smart enough to not get caught, so which is it?

quote:

do you think they are stupid enough to try to cut through a wall? They are probably a little smarter than you are when it comes to not getting caught...


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