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re: Teen who was arrested for reading the Bible in Wisconsin speaks at council meeting.

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Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 8/4/23 at 8:31 am to
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FWIW, Hank didn’t truly define “noise” when pressed earlier.
I linked the ordinance. Do your own damned research
This post was edited on 8/4/23 at 8:32 am
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27205 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 8:34 am to
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especially if a cop asks him politely not to do so


Well first off he wasn't asked at all. Their first action was to grab his microphone out of his hand.
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
12863 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 8:35 am to
Choose you this day whom you will serve…..

Then everyone go about their way

We can argue mans law all day long. Was the kid right or wrong by law, ordinance, etc?

But, one day all will bow to Jesus. Either willingly or begrudgingly.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 8:35 am to
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, so says the board legal expert


Hes a pussy.

I've never understood how a man could be over 40 and have such childish ideals.

Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44326 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 8:35 am to
quote:

I linked the ordinance.


I asked you to define noise.

Yet you deflect again.

YOU are the goose-stepper defending a “noise” ordinance that was used to arrest an individual practicing his 1st amendment right to free speech.

You support authoritarianism - period.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 8:36 am to
quote:

especially if a cop asks him politely not to do so
quote:

Well first off he wasn't asked at all. Their first action was to grab his microphone out of his hand.

two possibilities here. First, you were lying intentionally. Second, you didn’t bother to watch the video.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 8:39 am to
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Their first action was to grab his microphone out of his hand.


tBootlickers love petty ordinances and laws.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
46971 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 8:40 am to
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The cops who arrested him are assholes and is why I will never back the blue.


Your issue should be with the legislators, not the cops.

Use this opportunity to level up your civil game.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44326 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 8:40 am to
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Thte town has an ordinance, like most towns, preventing obnoxious disturbances.


Define “obnoxious” as it relates to an ordinance designed to be weaponized.

quote:

How would you like it if you were in the town square trying to chill and some buffoon was reading the Koran loudly? It would be irritating as hell.


True, but unless it is directly tied to an actual (MEASURABLE) decibel level, then I would defend his right to do so.

That is the ONLY acceptable answer concerning free speech.

Then again, you were a shot Nazi, so you supporting leftist Hank does not surprise me.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44326 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 8:41 am to
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Your issue should be with the legislators, not the cops.


Why not both.

It was based on the determination of “reasonable” by the cops.

They should be ridiculed for their stupidity as well.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
46971 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 8:42 am to
One other thought.

Isn’t Wisconsin where they have allowed the Muslim call to prayer to be blasted over public loudspeakers?

I get it, that we are speaking of city ordinances, which would be different in these two cities, but I find it interesting both are happening in Wisconsin. Sounds like some groups might want to take one of the other ordinance up the Wisconsin legal chain.

ETA: it might be Minnesota where the call to prayer is, I haven’t googled it yet.

ETAA: personally, I believe said he should be allowed to make their ordinances, so I really don’t have a problem with both
This post was edited on 8/4/23 at 8:44 am
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 8:43 am to
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ordinance designed to be weaponized.
JFC, it was written to recognize that most small town cops don’t carry decibel meters around on their person.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 8:45 am to
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Your issue should be with the legislators, not the cops.


Pretty much.

We elect lawyers who then create complex, petty laws to keep them in business.


Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 8:45 am to
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You support authoritarianism - period.
no, Jimmy, I support the right of the residents of a given community to make the rules to govern themselves.

The citizens of this community decided that they did not want to fill their neighborhoods with loud, obnoxious noise.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
46971 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 8:46 am to
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It was based on the determination of “reasonable” by the cops.


Wait until you find out how much of all law is based on ‘reasonable’.
Posted by canyon
MM23
Member since Dec 2003
22204 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 8:46 am to
I was told I could play my radio at a reasonable volume.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 8:47 am to
quote:

Isn’t Wisconsin where they have allowed the Muslim call to prayer to be blasted over public loudspeakers?
given immigration demographics, that was probably Minnesota.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 8:48 am to
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I was told I could play my radio at a reasonable volume.


Just make sure there's no condemnation of the fairy religion, they don't like that.
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2253 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 8:49 am to
Shhh. You are trying to speak in facts to a board full of conspiracy nuts.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 8:49 am to
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no, Jimmy, I support the right of the residents of a given community to make the rules to govern themselves.


Then you should never again complain about people wanting to ban drag queens with their children in a given community.

But you aren't consistent at all.
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