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re: Tariffs I urge caution

Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42867 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:37 pm to
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The folks who lost these manufacturing jobs are being played big time, if they think that these tariffs are going to both bring back manufacturing jobs and help the economy.


Except it did last time Trump was in office
Posted by CreoleTigerEsq
Noneya
Member since Nov 2007
861 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:38 pm to
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I would support high tariffs if they replaced the pillaging income tax.


... and that's the problem. The income tax won't be replaced. So, not only will you be paying more for consumer goods, you'll still be paying the same rate in taxes on your income.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295452 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:38 pm to
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Except it did last time Trump was in office


Created no permanent new jobs.

Cost us 80B

Tariffs are a welfare subsidy to woke corporations.
Posted by wartiger2004
9X National Champions WDE RIP CK
Member since Aug 2011
19993 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:38 pm to
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Is there a TLDR version?


Op is a Mexican with great hair that is afraid of being deported because if left to his own devices would only walk in circles.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162356 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:38 pm to
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Tariffs I urge caution
I urge caution Will Robinson... against eating a butthole like the OT raves about...

He forgot the link, he didn't write that. LINK

I am enjoying Roge bite into this hook line sinker. Even Owl said he doesn't think Trump will do any of the convoluted yibber yabber in the article. Muh globalization rules baby!

We need mentored on how many licks it takes to get to the chocolate goodness of a tootsie pop. We need humored. Not trolled and condescended from an OT trolling dipshit.

Continue brown nosing Roge, it is funny!
This post was edited on 9/24/24 at 1:39 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:39 pm to
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The idea that protective tariffs can restore America’s economic greatness


The purpose of taxes is to fund the federal government.

No tax is going to restore or make America great. Zero.

So you either punch your competitors or you punch yourself.

A lot of Americans want to punch themselves. It's the darndest thing.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295452 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:39 pm to
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I would support high tariffs


Tax on the working class.

Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42867 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:39 pm to
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Created no permanent new jobs.

Cost us 80B

Tariffs are a welfare subsidy to woke corporations.


Because the Zombie in office reversed course almost immediately.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:39 pm to
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i am even willing to pay more for American jobs and to prevent dumping. other countries have tariffed us for ages.


1000%. It’s time for America to benefit Americans and not a bunch of 3rd world despots.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35392 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:40 pm to
OP confirmed as I B Freeman.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88841 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:41 pm to
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Not trolled and condescended from an OT trolling dipshit.




yeah i normally do not converse with OT only people who just jumped across here due to election season. this owl dude came outta nowhere. thanks for clarifying he is an OT regular.
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
7438 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:42 pm to
When you have the Chinese setting up shop right over the board so they can make there car cheap in Mexico and drive it right over the boarder. Then absolutely tariff the frick out if it.
They built this factory in Mexico to sell the electric cars to the US market not transport to Asia or Europe.
They are a threat to us auto industry.

Posted by CreoleTigerEsq
Noneya
Member since Nov 2007
861 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:42 pm to
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Except it did last time Trump was in office.


Explain that to job losses that occurred in the steel industry in Michigan, as a result of his tariffs.

LINK
This post was edited on 9/24/24 at 1:43 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295452 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:42 pm to
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1000%. It’s time for America to benefit Americans


Taxing your workers to support corporations that will invariably automate is not looking out for America.
Posted by Norbert
Member since Oct 2018
3566 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:43 pm to
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They see no dignity in the jobs they destroy.


Tariffs destroy jobs, too.

It’s just not as visible.

With tariffs, you’re saying I’m going to protect THESE SPECIFIC jobs.


Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135437 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:43 pm to
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A lot of Americans want to punch themselves. It's the darndest thing.
Fair share ... fair share ... fair share.

aka "From each according to his ability. To each according to his need."

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295452 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:44 pm to
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Tariffs destroy jobs, too.


Indeed.

80% of this board never went to college or took economics. They believe the old Union line.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
20466 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:44 pm to
I agree that tariffs in a general sense raise prices. This is impossible to logically argue against.

The reason we aren't in a pure Adam Smith Wealth of Nations argument is one of national security imo. We've sold our souls to China for cheap everything.

China, our chief world threat, has become absolutely critical to our supply chains across all industries. This should never have been so. But, it is so because both Reps and Dems are owned by corporate interests that want cheap supply. That's understandable if you're a corporate type. But, it's inexcusable if you're charged with guarding the security and sovereignty of our country.

So, I look at it moreso as a reclaiming of our own supply chain from China, a country acting daily upon us with state-sponsored cyber attacks, among many other things.

One example of the constant coordinated attacks China aims at our key infrastructure. Pretty nefarious.
LINK
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465525 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:44 pm to
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So you either punch your competitors or you punch yourself.

A lot of Americans want to punch themselves. It's the darndest thing.

Inflation is a tax, so the impacts of tariffs would still be "punching yourself"

That's the flaw in your statement
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