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re: Tariff Portal opened today $160 BILLION DUE BACK

Posted on 4/21/26 at 4:19 pm to
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13359 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 4:19 pm to
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As I stated originally this is going to be interesting
As far as consumer rebates go the lawyers Billings will be enormous.


I don't think it will amount to a hill of beans.

I can't think of any legitimate legal foundation that it could possibly stand on and apparently you can't either.

Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39610 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 4:28 pm to
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I find it funny that the govt took the money, consumers paid higher prices, now the tax payers are on the hook for paying back the money plus interest and we still go stuck with the higher prices. Typical swamp shite.



That would be the same "consumers and taxpayers" that are losing their job to illegal immigration and international fraud conspiracies. USAID at the fore.

Have some patience; we are dissembling the Con and the tariffs were the tip of the spear.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13359 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 4:40 pm to
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Yes, and we're part of the swamp since we elected them.


And Trump is the swamp ringleader because he chose to impose those tariffs illegally. Intentionally. To see if he could get away with it.

Not surprisingly, MAGA blames those following the law instead of the guy who intentionally tried to break it.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34168 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:02 pm to
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Companies do not have to prove that they did not pass this on to their companies

Yes, they do

Once the check is cut to the tariffed company, the ambulance chasers will file suit. Either on behalf of the downstream companies that can prove their costs indeed went up, or the bulk of consumers that bought end products from the company that got reimbursed. Some might turn into class action against larger importers

Either way, once that govt check gets cut, people will be clawing at the door to get their slice. And the lawyers will get paid the bulk of the refund
Posted by Jauquismos
Member since Jul 2023
632 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:14 pm to
Where's your outrage with what's happening in Tampon Tims state with all the fraud, corruption, and abuse with the day cares and whatever else those neanderthal Somali's are orchestrating? And California with the hospice fraud. Since you care so much about the taxpayers.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13359 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:18 pm to
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Once the check is cut to the tariffed company, the ambulance chasers will file suit.


Based on what law?

I don't know of any law that says a company is required to pay customers back because they got a tax refund. Last I heard it was legal for a company to raise prices for any reason they wanted or no reason at all.

Y'all are falling for the 2026 version of an urban legend. Yes, I know there is a proposed bill in committee. It's a publicity stunt.
This post was edited on 4/21/26 at 6:19 pm
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34168 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:27 pm to
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Based on what law?

LoL, a contract that was essentially voided because the importer added tariffs and upped the price. Heres a primer
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The path to tariff refunds remains unclear, but filing a protective lawsuit is the most viable way to protect financial interests in tariff refunds. Eligibility will depend on specific circumstances and position in the supply chain.

Even if a company is not the Importer of Record, they could have an avenue for receiving any tariff refunds through contractual claims.

It is unlikely that any government process would provide a remedy for businesses downstream in the supply chain. However, businesses should consider their contractual position with their suppliers and customers. Businesses that agreed to a surcharge should determine whether those agreements included language regarding the disposition of those payments if the tariffs were found to be unauthorized.

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“The Supreme Court has told the government to refund to the importers, but no court has told the importers to refund to the downstream consumers,” Chaturvedi said.

Legal challenges could change that. A class-action lawsuit against Costco seeks to force the retailer to refund tariff money to consumers.

“There is already a class action lawsuit against Costco, where consumers have sued Costco to say that the money that you will get from a tariff refund, you need to refund it to us,” Chaturvedi said.

Anyone that gets a refund will get sued. They may win, but their lawyers will take a nice chunk of it
Posted by LawTalkingGuy
Member since Mar 2025
200 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:35 pm to
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Those that accept back rebates will undoubtedly be facing class action lawsuits from consumers which will be expensive to fight.


They are going to face class action suits whether they accept the rebates or not. Several suits have already been filed. Deciding to let the government keep the money will not be a defense to a claim that consumers were charged for a tariff that was later deemed unlawful

They better get their money back to fund settlement of those suits.

Take this out of the big retail arena: if you bought some big ticket item from an importer, and there was a separate line item for the IEEPA tariff, then that importer most likely owes you a refund, plus interest. They cannot avoid liability to you by refusing to file for a refund. Its YOUR money. They can let the government keep it, but they still owe you, because they are the ones in position to get the refund.

The big retailers are not a perfect analogy, but the same idea applies. I dont know if the big retailers are liable for some type of refund to their customers - probably depends on the facts in each case - but they cannot escape that liability by just refusing to seek the refunds.
This post was edited on 4/21/26 at 6:36 pm
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Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
35673 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:41 pm to
Short sighted liberal pussies like you make me sick
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13359 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:51 pm to
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a contract that was essentially voided because the importer added tariffs and upped the price.


I've shopped at Costco before. I never signed a contract with them. Have you?


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Businesses that agreed to a surcharge should determine whether those agreements included language regarding the disposition of those payments if the tariffs were found to be unauthorized.


So in this example you're saying that some importers signed contracts with distributers in which they itemized the additional charges as being pass-through tariff charges instead of just raising prices.

Yeah, o.k. I can see that circumstance. Thanks for that explanation.

But the Costco example is asinine.


Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
17190 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:52 pm to
Completely wrong, I said I was against Biden and Obama using too many executive orders at the time they were doing it too.

Seems to me it is the GOP who bitched about executive orders but the moment they took over all the opposition to them wilted away.

For example

LINK
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
13039 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:56 pm to
Let the Somali pirate-fraudsters pay it back…
Posted by SalE
At the beach
Member since Jan 2020
3122 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 7:20 pm to
Good luck...have you ever tried to resolve a financial issue with the Federal Government?
Posted by lsu5803tiger
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Member since Feb 2006
1807 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 7:23 pm to
Nobody cares cuck, go buy the real man of the house a 30k vehicle
Posted by southofyou
Member since Sep 2021
236 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 9:17 pm to
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Nobody cares cuck, go buy the real man of the house a 30k vehicle


I bought your mom a sandwich from Jimmy Johns, and she said that was the best meal she ever had.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34168 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 11:59 am to
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I've shopped at Costco before. I never signed a contract with them. Have you?

Once you paid that membership fee, you entered an agreement with them

The agreement of course is very lopsided toward them. But thats exactly why we have a court system. To undo unfair practices
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