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re: Taliban has taken Kabul. Terrorist attack at Airport at least 12 marines confirmed killed

Posted on 8/30/21 at 6:49 am to
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 8/30/21 at 6:49 am to
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fatality firefights


Isn’t the only firefight.

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Probably takes youngsters 6 months to fire a gun.


What? You think Marines don’t fire a gun for 6 months? Army has live fire the first 1/2 of 8 week basic. Army 11 Bravo can be on patrols within weeks of finishing training which I think is somewhere around 16 weeks.

These guys being 20 has nothing to do with what they may or may not have done.
Posted by Tempratt
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Posted on 8/30/21 at 7:31 am to
That's just heart breaking. HOw did any commercial flights make it out w/o being shot down?

Why the hell did Biden pull the military out of Afganistan?

No wonder libs love him so much. Anything that allows an anti-Christian org get an advantage.

Normally Libs like seeing military people hurt.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 8/30/21 at 9:11 am to
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What the hell was this administration thinking having Kabul as the only way out?

It's mind boggling isn't it?

We could have been doing this whole op from Bagram which was one of the most secure places on the planet for Americans/westerners to be at if they had to be in a hostile territory. Not to mention it is large enough where this all could have been done faster and without having to rely on the motherfricking Taliban to pull security. But nope. We cut and ran in the middle of the night for whatever reason.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 8/30/21 at 10:41 am to
For those who have asked about my son a small update.

He texted a little while ago and said he is good. Now here is the part that hit me in the feels-

He asked how everyone in Louisiana was doing (he has aunts and uncles in Baton Rouge and New Orleans). He is in a war zone for all intents and purposes and took a minute to ask about those affected by Ida. Man do I love the young man he has become.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/30/21 at 10:48 am to
Press Secretary Butthead on how many Americans are left in Afghanistan: Ask the State Department
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 8/30/21 at 11:02 am to
Just when you think it can't get worse...

Pentogon knew and did nothing about suicide bomber

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During the meeting, Gen. Mark Milley, the chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, warned of “significant” intelligence indicating that the Islamic State’s Afghanistan affiliate, ISIS-K, was planning a “complex attack,” the notes quoted him as saying.

Commanders calling in from Kabul relayed that the Abbey Gate, where American citizens had been told to gather in order to gain entrance to the airport, was “highest risk,” and detailed their plans to protect the airport.

“I don’t believe people get the incredible amount of risk on the ground,” Austin said, according to the classified notes.


Nah, let's leave the gate open and our people exposed...

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On a separate call at 4 that afternoon, or 12:30 a.m. on Thursday in Kabul, the commanders detailed a plan to close Abbey Gate by Thursday afternoon Kabul time. But the Americans decided to keep the gate open longer than they wanted in order to allow their British allies, who had accelerated their withdrawal timeline, to continue evacuating their personnel, based at the nearby Baron Hotel.



Hey, Biden voters are you happy yet?
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/30/21 at 11:13 am to
Congressman Ronnie Jackson tells a story where some of his constituents are trapped behind enemy lines that led to a 15 year old getting badly beaten and the mother having a gun out to her head when trying to get to the airport: Twitter

Keep in mind that the August 31st deadline isn’t just for our soldiers, it’s addressed to all of our civilians there as well. Wednesday I’m thinking is just going to be a crazy bad day between this and the hurricane.
This post was edited on 8/30/21 at 11:13 am
Posted by Trevaylin
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Posted on 8/30/21 at 11:56 am to



Au Contraire, 4 months of basic training does not permit superior functioning out side the gate, in a mob, that dresses differently and hides weapons, that speaks a totally foreign language, where all males carry guns, with a peer group of similar experience marines , a culture that lies, without tolerance for the 2-3 marine females, standing close together creates higher risk. This is all without considering rules of engagement .

The battalion level leadership screwed the pooch in setting up these young people as a target
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 8/30/21 at 12:02 pm to
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For those who have asked about my son a small update.

He texted a little while ago and said he is good.




that's great news
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 8/30/21 at 12:58 pm to
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Au Contraire, 4 months of basic training does not permit superior functioning out side the gate, in a mob, that dresses differently and hides weapons, that speaks a totally foreign language, where all males carry guns, with a peer group of similar experience marines , a culture that lies, without tolerance for the 2-3 marine females, standing close together creates higher risk. This is all without considering rules of engagement .


Move the goal posts much?
Posted by OTIS2
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Posted on 8/30/21 at 1:03 pm to
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
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Posted on 8/30/21 at 2:02 pm to


Can anyone confirm that these are real photos and the legitimacy of the claims below?

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@Resilient_Vet

It’s an absolute shitfest to see the Taliban now actually flying US BlackHawk helicopters, hanging people by the throat from them!!

The American President will never be forgiven for this!!


Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/30/21 at 2:11 pm to
It’s real: Twitter
Posted by ItTakesAThief
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 8/30/21 at 2:18 pm to
If this is real then that is cause to destroy every piece of American equipment in that country when we leave.

It is not in our National interest to allow US military equipment that is made in the US to be used in acts of terrorism and intimidation of a population by thugs to the extent we can keep it from occurring.
This post was edited on 8/30/21 at 2:21 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/30/21 at 2:19 pm to
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If this is real then that is cause to destroy every piece of American equipment in that country when we leave.

It is not in our National interest to allow us military and is made equipment to be used in acts of terrorism to the extent we can keep it from occurring.


The problem isn’t so much them using it. The actual problem is China, Russia, and Iran purchasing these vehicles from the Taliban and reverse engineering them. That’s where this scares me.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 8/30/21 at 2:28 pm to
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The actual problem is China, Russia, and Iran purchasing these vehicles 


Its like this was done on purpose so this could happen.
Posted by Priapus
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/30/21 at 2:30 pm to
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The problem isn’t so much them using it. The actual problem is China, Russia, and Iran purchasing these vehicles from the Taliban and reverse engineering them


It isn't a stretch to imagine SecDef Lloyd Austin (Raytheon Board of Directors) leaving that gear, knowing that his former company will make billions more "upgrading" the tech packages on ALL of the gear currently in the US stockpiles because it is all now compromised.
This post was edited on 8/30/21 at 2:32 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/30/21 at 2:32 pm to
Afghan female pilot stoned to death: Twitter
Posted by UASports23
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Posted on 8/30/21 at 2:35 pm to
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The actual problem is China, Russia, and Iran purchasing these vehicles from the Taliban and reverse engineering them. That’s where this scares me.


I keep hearing this but I don't understand it.

Do we really think that the Chinese/Russians don't have plans to Humvees/Black Hawks/Little Birds/MaxxPros?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/30/21 at 2:51 pm to
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Do we really think that the Chinese/Russians don't have plans to Humvees/Black Hawks/Little Birds/MaxxPros?


While China is great at making electronics and clothing, they really suck in the vehicle department. Chinese mechanical engineering really, really sucks. Save for the AK-47 Russia has been notoriously terrible at that as well.
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