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re: Taliban has taken Kabul. Terrorist attack at Airport at least 12 marines confirmed killed

Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:38 pm to
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:38 pm to
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I’m sorry, but Obama wouldn’t leave 15,000 US citizens and 85 billion dollars of equipment behind enemy lines. It’s something only someone who is severely mentally retarded would do. As Obama now immortally once said “Don't underestimate Joe's ability to frick things up.”


If your point is Joe is much worse than Obama I agree. But Obama fricked plenty up. We ship weapons to Libya and the. Those weapons were used in the attack on Benghazi.

Obama also gave how many hundreds of Billions to Iran? So yeah Obama would have left that equipment behind.

The optics would look better because Obama’s black 1/2 shielded his white 1/2 from criticism.
Posted by gizmothepug
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:40 pm to
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As Obama now immortally once said


Just like Hillary and her testimony, At this point what difference does it make when referring to a few dead Americans.
Posted by Prog
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Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:40 pm to
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What has happened us as a country... Trump [wouldn't have put up with this shite]


I find it ironically hilarious that American voters wanted Trump out of office because of the international perception. The were worried that he made America & Americans look bad.

It's extremely laughable that they replaced Trump with someone that makes America look worse.
Posted by BayouCatFan
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:41 pm to
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I’m sorry, but Obama wouldn’t leave 15,000 US citizens and 85 billion dollars of equipment behind enemy lines. It’s something only someone who is severely mentally retarded would do. As Obama now immortally once said “Don't underestimate Joe's ability to frick things up.”



This has nothing to do with Biden being in charge. Someone else is pulling the strings and they wanted all this to happen. IMO Biden never even wanted to run in 2020, but was forced to over him being compromised by foreign governments. Either a foreign country is making him do this directly or someone inside our own government is being forced to make him do this. To be blunt, the President of the United States is being used as a patsy.
This post was edited on 8/22/21 at 10:44 pm
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:44 pm to
You guys really think way too much of the presidents power and position. The president of Goldman Sachs has much more real power.

Hillary btw, whom I never liked, nor even thought about supporting was a idiot war hawk. She would have gotten us into at least 2 or 3 other conflicts.

Obama, if he had any balls would have gotten us out of Afghanistan but didn’t want the political blowback. Plus Goldman didn’t ok it for him. Defense contractor bonds or some shite.

They have completely ducked up this withdrawal, terrible, but the damn Trump team was dragging arse on the damn visas too. Here is why, both are scared shitless on letting in a terrorist he blows up something etc.

We are 10,0000 times too scared of terrorist activity here. You are much more likely to get killed by a spree killer. Take the damn cuffs of my friends at the agency and the payback will be so significant only super crazy nuts would even think about it.

We need to adopt or readopt the Israeli tactics, which I think we actually gave to them to begin with, or really better the Roman tactics. Terrorist come from your village, good bye village.

To be totally Frank, once we get past the oil based economy, in next 10 to 20 years, the Middle East can be like rest of Africa. They can all go frick themselves, kill each other, eat one another, etc. We don’t have to give a shite. No oil no care.
Posted by UASports23
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:46 pm to
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Despite Biden referencing an extended perimeter during his remarks today, the US mil operations at the airport in Kabul haven't expanded; what's changing is that the Taliban are going to be setting up more entry points along the outer airport perimeter, per an admin official.


Posted by UASports23
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:51 pm to
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Boris Johnson will personally lobby Joe Biden at the G7 leaders summit, No 10 said on Sunday night, pleading with him to keep US troops at Kabul airport beyond the end of August, after a weekend of tension between the UK and its closest ally.


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James Heappey, the armed forces minister, said the Taliban were “marshalling people into separate queues for the US evacuation and the UK evacuation, and that is making a big difference to the size of the crowds outside the UK gate and allowing us to process people much more quickly”.

The Taliban accused the US, which is holding the airport with 5,200 troops, of failing to keep control properly – though it is the group’s fighters who have beaten and shot at those trying to access the site. At least 20 people have died in the chaotic scenes both on the tarmac and outside the airport since the previous Sunday, a Nato official told Reuters. Many other Afghans have been held at roadblocks or are too scared to travel despite receiving an evacuation offer.

Amir Khan Muttaqi, the chief of the Taliban’s guidance council, said: “All Afghanistan is secure, but the airport which is managed by the Americans has anarchy,. The US should not defame itself, should not embarrass itself to the world and should not give this mentality to our people that [the Taliban] are a kind of enemy.” In his press conference Biden said that the US had expanded their perimeter around the airport in order to accelerate their evacuations. He said the Taliban had cooperated with those efforts.
This post was edited on 8/22/21 at 10:54 pm
Posted by Tigerbait357
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:53 pm to
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Then why can’t Trump have a fb and twitter account?


Posted by UASports23
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:59 pm to
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In his letter, Starmer asked Johnson if he had spoken personally to Biden to seek an extension to the US presence. Johnson and Biden last spoke on Tuesday, a call that took over 24 hours to arrange, according to the Sunday Times. Biden did not name the UK on Sunday night when listing the countries whose leaders he had spoken to.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:00 pm to
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You guys really think way too much of the presidents power and position.

I do agree. The position of POTUS is easily one of the most overrated things in the world. Yes the president has considerable power and influence but they aren’t solely responsible for everything. Good or bad. Supporters give the president credit for everything while critics blame the president for everything. With the way people think about the position, you’d think we live a tiny city state in which the president is an absolute monarch.

But because people think (only election people pay attention to as well) like this, they think if they just change the person at the top everything will be solved. Doesn’t matter the 1000 other factors and powers at play.
This post was edited on 8/22/21 at 11:04 pm
Posted by UASports23
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:01 pm to
lol, this UK political cartoon is brutally honest.

Posted by UASports23
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:06 pm to
Well if we have $9 Billion of their money. Biden may try a gun-buy back program. You give us our guns, you get your money. Isn't that what they want to do domestically?

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Afghanistan is facing a potentially catastrophic perfect storm of bank closures and shortages of hard currency on top of the suspension of money transfers by companies that sustain the key flow of remittances to Afghans from abroad by family members.

With ATMs in cities emptied, and banks and the main Sarai Shahzada financial exchange in Kabul still closed, the country has faced a series of economic shocks since the Taliban seized power a week ago.

Without access to $9bn (£6.6bn) in frozen central bank reserves, which are held in the US, and with a crucial delivery of dollars cancelled as the former government collapsed, ordinary Afghans are already confronted with rising prices for basic goods as the value of the afghani has dropped even as they have started to run low on cash.

Salaries for government workers, many of whom are in hiding since the Taliban takeover, are unpaid, while queues formed at banks to withdraw savings during the former government’s collapse. Experts are warning of the risk of hyperinflation and increased hardship in the already impoverished country.

Among those warning of the risk of soaring inflation was Ajmal Ahmady, the country’s former central banker, who fled last week. He suggested that inflation could soon hit double digits.

Explaining the crisis, Graeme Smith, a researcher with the Overseas Development Institute, said: “The afghani has been defended by literally planeloads of US dollars landing in Kabul on a very regular basis, sometimes weekly.

“If the Taliban don’t get cash infusions soon to defend the afghani, I think there’s a real risk of a currency devaluation that makes it hard to buy bread on the streets of Kabul for ordinary people.”


“The flow of dollars into the country through foreign aid and private remittances appears largely to have ceased.

“People who hold savings in the form of the local currency, the afghani, will rush to exchange them for dollars. If they can’t find dollars, they will try to exchange their afghanis for goods. Prices will be pushed up further.”

Justin Sandefur, a senior fellow at the Center for Global Development, told the New York Times: “In the short term it’s potentially catastrophic. You’re looking at the possibility of the currency collapsing and a financial crisis that could inflict real pain on normal people.”

The decision by Western Union and MoneyGram last week to suspend their services is also expected to have a profound effect, with the country one of the world’s most dependent on remittances by family members from abroad.

According to the World Bank, remittances account for 4% of Afghanistan’s GDP or $800m a year.


Announcing the move last week, Western Union acknowledged the impact the suspension would have.

“We recognise that our services provide a vital channel for our customers to support their loved ones, and we will continue to closely monitor this rapidly developing situation and keep our customers and associates apprised of any developments,” it said.

Less obvious, but equally critical, appears to have been the impact on the less formal Islamic hawala system for transferring money from abroad, which relies on hard currency to underpin its operations and which is more widely used by people in rural areas, who are also the country’s poorest.

The shortages of cash are likely to have far-reaching implications unless the Taliban can find a way to get Afghanistan’s economy working again.

Reports have already emerged of Afghans in cities being unable to meet rent payments while some have complained about being unable to find food and fuel.

“For now I want food for my 3 children,” tweeted a member of the Hear Afghan Women account. “We had bread today with sweet tea. Gas is too expensive, all banks closed, other foodstuff shortage in Kabul stores, can’t find mobile top-up - and also afraid for our lives.”

Even before the Taliban’s takeover, the price of staples such as bread had been rising sharply because of the impact of the pandemic.

And the mobile phone top-up issue is also important. Many remittance services use text messages to tell users they have been sent money from abroad.

The value of the afghani has also decreased since the Taliban’s takeover, with reports this weekend that street exchanges that had reopened were exchanging a dollar for 86 afghanis, up from about 80 before Kabul fell.

The bleak outlook was underlined by a prediction by forecaster Fitch Solutions on Friday that Afghanistan’s economy could shrink by as much as 20% this year and its currency may slide even further.

“It is likely that the economy will contract sharply this year,” said Anwita Basu, its head of Asia country risk.

“Countries facing similar circumstances, like Myanmar and Syria, have seen their GDPs collapse by around 10-20%, which can’t be ruled out for Afghanistan too.”

Basu said the afghani which has already weakened more than 7% this month against the US dollar, may fall more because most of the state’s foreign-held assets have been frozen to stop the Taliban from gaining access. She added that hyperinflation could not be ruled out.

The Congressional Research Service noted this year that 90% of Afghanistan’s population lived on less than $2 a day and warned that the loss of American support would weaken one of the world’s smallest economie


The Guardian :
This post was edited on 8/22/21 at 11:11 pm
Posted by Swoozie
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:26 pm to
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The optics would look better because Obama’s black 1/2 shielded his white 1/2 from criticism.

And he’s a lot smoother at hiding his actions than the potato.
Posted by UASports23
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:02 am to
82nd Airborne Photos









Posted by UASports23
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:05 am to
10th Mountain Division Photos:





Posted by HoboDickCheese
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Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:17 am to
Is that a M240? I thought they completely replaced them with the M249 which I’ve been told from Marines that shouldn’t have happened
Posted by Scott68
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 2:02 am to

OSINTtechnical
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This morning at 4:13 p.m. CEST at the North Gate of Kabul airport a firefight broke out between a group of Afghan, US, and German troops and unknown attackers. An Afghan security soldier was killed and three others wounded. No US or German casualties reported.
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 4:27 am to

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BREAKING: The Taliban will not extend an Aug. 31 deadline for Western forces to leave Afghanistan, two sources in the Islamist group told
@Reuters
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The sources, however, said no Western government or official had approached the Taliban to extend the deadline.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 4:53 am to
frick them . I wish there was a way to get all the non extremist out and drop a fricking nuke on that shithole
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27844 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 5:22 am to
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I suggest you review what lead up to and happened in Benghazi.


Oh I’m familiar and I know they will answer their maker for it one day. But what Biden is currently doing is, in my opinion, on a whole different level.
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