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re: Taliban has taken Kabul. Terrorist attack at Airport at least 12 marines confirmed killed

Posted on 8/22/21 at 9:56 am to
Posted by CheesyF
Member since May 2017
551 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 9:56 am to
Can’t fly em though
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75788 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:00 am to
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Can’t fly em though

You sure about that?
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
33256 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:02 am to
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You sure about that?


Can’t fly them for long is a better statement

No maintenance program

No source for replacement parts

Extremely limited (that’s being generous) pool if qualified flight crews
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12647 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:04 am to
I'm sure they have some people who can fly them, but they surely don't have nearly as many people who can fly them as Australia does, making their fleet effectively much smaller than Australia's.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75788 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:09 am to
Even the Afghan journalists are getting pulled out now:

@bsarwary
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Sunday 22 August 2021: The day I leave my country, my city, my Kabul. A massacre of my dreams and aspirations. A tragic day in my life.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40251 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:11 am to
Again, all I can say is heartbreaking.
Posted by Nonetheless
MAGA
Member since Jan 2012
34420 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:13 am to
the worst has yet to come i reckon.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75788 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:13 am to
@Wikileaks just tweeted this, which gives a good idea of the motives of china and Russia. That's not news, really, but it just confirms it.

quote:

Successful privatisation of Afghanistan’s “world-class” Aynak copper resources near #Kabul, could “assist in 're-branding' #Afghanistan as a place where international corporations can do business”, according to a 2007 US cable revealed by WikiLeaks

LINK LINK
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33945 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:14 am to
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Bruno Maçães
@MacaesBruno

How surreal things are: the Haqqani Network is in charge of security in Kabul and around the airport while being designated as a terrorist organization by Washington


quote:

Khalil Haqqani is listed as wanted by the US with a bounty of I think $5 million. He is now effectively organizing the US evacuation from Afghanistan
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Many of us find this odd
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75788 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:26 am to
I don't know that I believe this. "In the last 24 hours" we have seen a massive stampeed/crush that killed seven, shooting that could have killed some of those, an ISIS threat that completely shutdown all of the gates and forced the Embassy to tell Americans not to come to the airport, and German news outlets reporting planes leaving with very few people on them.

I suppose they could have strictly been evacing people who were inside the airport, which we were told that there was a "10,000 person 'backlog'", but I don't know.

@JoshNBCNews
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NEW: @SecBlinken says US evacuated about 8,000 from Kabul in last 24-hour period. That would be by far the largest single day total yet


It is also important to note that when they say stuff like this, they just say "people". They never differentiate between Americans and Afghans. They also say the "US got 8,000 people out", which I find hard to believe when multiple nations are running flights in and out of that airport while sharing the same runway. To say the "US has gotten 8,000 people out in the past 24 hours" is more than a bit disingenuous, and amounts to more than just a little bit of spin for this Admin.
This post was edited on 8/22/21 at 10:29 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75788 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:27 am to
I've tried, Bobby, to rally a group of highly trained OTers to charter a jet and head over and pop that ol' baw. I was even going to use Peej as a decoy in a suicide vest so he could "Blow up the palace!" Alas, I only had one taker.
This post was edited on 8/22/21 at 10:40 am
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:30 am to
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No source for replacement parts


You so sure about that?

Albeit shitty parts the Chinese are probably reverse engineering everything on it right now.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:30 am to
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It is also important to note that when they say stuff like this, they just say "people". They never differentiate between Americans and Afghans. They also say the "US got 8,000 people out", which I find hard to believe when multiple nations are running flights in and out of that airport while sharing the same runway. To say the "US has gotten 8,000 people out in the past 24 hours" is more than a bit disingenuous.


Not to mention that you have to back them into an extreme corner for them to tell you how many Americans were evacuated. Plus the runway was shut down for like 8 hours yesterday. I don’t believe for a fricking second we evacuated 8,000 yesterday just given the footage we’ve been shown.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:31 am to
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You so sure about that?

Albeit shitty parts the Chinese are probably reverse engineering everything on it right now.


Still, it will take them a while to do that and they don’t want any of their satellite states having heavy weaponry they can use against them. Like us, I’m sure China is very displeased Pakistan has nuclear weaponry.
This post was edited on 8/22/21 at 10:33 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75788 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:31 am to
Looks like they aren't fond of their Afghan journalists leaving the country:

@SuhailShaheen
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A three-members committee has been set up in Kabul to reassure media.
A member of the Cultural Commission, a member of the Union of Journalists and media outlets and a member of the Kabul Police Dept will participate as members.
They will address media problems in Kabul.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85718 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:33 am to
Just wait til the first suicide bomber strikes outside of the airport…. US intelligence indicates it’s likely coming.

All hell is going to break loose and it will land solely on Biden.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:34 am to
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Just wait til the first suicide bomber strikes outside of the airport…. US intelligence indicates it’s likely coming.


Yeah, that’s going to kill 40 people on its own, nevertheless the number of people that will be trampled to death as the panic ensues.
This post was edited on 8/22/21 at 12:00 pm
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
26511 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:36 am to
Don't believe it.
Posted by CoastLSUFan
Member since Nov 2010
751 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:37 am to
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It is also important to note that when they say stuff like this, they just say "people". They never differentiate between Americans and Afghans.


This. Although I hope we can get the Afghans out who helped us, our first priority needs to be American citizens. I have seen no definite numbers of American citizens who have been rescued. Hell, they don’t even know how many are there.
This post was edited on 8/22/21 at 10:43 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:39 am to
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I have seen no definite numbers of Americans citizens who have been rescued.


The last number I’ve seen is that we’ve evacuated a total of 2,500 Americans, which is disastrous to say the least. Unless we drastically change tactics, I don’t see more than 4,000 of them total getting out of there.
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