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re: Taliban has taken Kabul. Terrorist attack at Airport at least 12 marines confirmed killed

Posted on 8/20/21 at 10:22 pm to
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33946 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 10:22 pm to
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Clarissa Ward
@clarissaward

Just landed in Doha with the team and nearly 300 Afghan evacuees. Huge thanks to all of you for your support and concern, to the US Air Force for flying us out and to Qatar for welcoming us. We are the lucky ones.
Posted by Swoozie
Member since Jan 2021
1385 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 10:24 pm to
Taliban. They’re just like us!
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
26511 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 10:27 pm to
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Taliban. They’re just like us!


Yea, they'll have Supreme goats before you know it.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
25110 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 10:36 pm to
She’s running because of the news in Arizona.


I kid but that’s the shite people threw out there for the entire Trump admin.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32364 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 11:00 pm to
What do y’all think the odds are of something big happening somewhere very soon to take the eyes off of Kabul?

I guess that’s too much of a thread derailer but I don’t feel like starting a thread over it.
Posted by BootheelSoldier
MO Bootheel
Member since Oct 2017
368 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 11:02 pm to
FFS. You did this same shite last night. Get bent smooth brain
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
26511 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 11:11 pm to
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smooth brain


Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
26511 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 11:14 pm to
White House protecting Biden's image again.

This time.. leaving out info in a call with the French President.

quote:

The White House’s readout of a call between Joe Biden and Emmanuel Macron on the crisis in Afghanistan leaves out an impassioned plea from the French president that the US and its allies have a “moral responsibility” to evacuate Afghan allies.

The French government’s readout of the conversation was released on Friday, a day after the call took place, and indicates that Macron emphasised ensuring the safe evacuation of Afghan citizens who assisted American and European troops over the past 20 years at great risk to themselves and their families.

According to the readout, Macron described the mission to evacuate allies as a “moral responsibility” and told Biden: “We cannot abandon them.”

The Élysée said Macron “underlined the absolute need to ensure rapid and concrete coordination among allies on the ground to continue the evacuations”.

The White House version, however, made no mention of a “moral responsibility” to evacuate Afghan allies.

“They lauded the tireless efforts of their personnel working closely together in Kabul on the evacuation of their citizens, the brave Afghans who have stood by us and our Nato partners, and other vulnerable Afghan nationals,” the White House said in a brief description of the call.

“They underscored the importance of continued close coordination among allies and democratic partners on Afghanistan, including through multilateral fora, on the provision of humanitarian assistance and support for refugees.”

Asked about the difference, the White House just referred the Guardian back to the readout.

Tens of thousands of international citizens and Afghans who collaborated with US and Nato forces remained stranded in Kabul on Friday, as governments grappled with an overwhelming backlog of visas and Taliban checkpoints which were preventing people safely reaching the airport.

The urgency of the evacuation of Afghans allied with US and Nato forces, and western media organizations, has been compounded by recent reports of Taliban fighters going door-to-door looking for those who had worked with the previous regime and threatening them.

The Biden administration has faced bipartisan criticism over the haste of the withdrawal and the huge backlog in processing special visas for Afghan citizens who assisted US forces.

Earlier this week, Biden set a 31 August deadline for complete US withdrawal, defending the swift exit by saying there would have been no way for the US to pull out of the country “without chaos ensuing”.

The US president said he would consider extending the deadline if American citizens still remained in need of evacuation, but did not mention Afghan allies in the calculation.

“We will determine at the time who is left and if they are not out we will stay,” he said.

The French president’s plea comes amid criticism that he pandered to the far right in a speech earlier this week, after he said France should have a robust plan to “anticipate and protect itself from a wave of migrants” from Afghanistan.

The comments, made in a televised address, came hours after desperate Afghans trying to flee the country were filmed clinging to the wheels of a plane and falling to the ground.

Macron, who is expected to seek a second term in office in next year’s presidential election, stressed that France would not abandon Afghans who had worked with its forces and with the European Union offices in Afghanistan.

But he added that “dealing with those fleeing the Taliban would need an organised and fair international effort” and that “Europe alone cannot assume the consequences of the current situation”.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17816 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 11:15 pm to
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Trump is the last Outsider that will ever be POTUS

At least until President Crenshaw.
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
7980 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 11:17 pm to
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At least until President Crenshaw.

No
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75819 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 11:19 pm to
NY Times Biden Afghanistan Fact Check

quote:

Biden’s Inaccurate Claims in Defending Afghanistan Withdrawal


quote:

President Biden, in remarks on Friday, vowed to evacuate all Americans out of Afghanistan and defended his administration from criticisms over the withdrawal.

But in doing so, he made several misleading or false claims about the pullout and evacuation, which have been chaotic as Americans and tens of thousands of Afghan allies try to flee through the airport in Kabul.

Here’s a fact-check of the president’s remarks.



quote:

WHAT MR. BIDEN SAID

“I have seen no question of our credibility from our allies around the world.”

This is misleading. While leaders of countries allied with the United States have been hesitant to publicly criticize the withdrawal, some members of their governments have not minced words in questioning American leadership and credibility.



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WHAT MR. BIDEN SAID

“What interest do we have in Afghanistan at this point with Al Qaeda gone? We went to Afghanistan for the express purpose of getting rid of Al Qaeda in Afghanistan as well as, as well as getting Osama bin Laden, and we did.”

False. Al Qaeda’s presence in Afghanistan has certainly been reduced since the United States invaded, but Mr. Biden is wrong to say that the terrorist group is no longer in the country.


quote:

WHAT MR. BIDEN SAID

“We have no indication that they haven’t been able to get — in Kabul — through the airport. We’ve made an agreement with the, with the Taliban. Thus far, they’ve allowed them to go through. It’s in their interest for them to go through. So, we know of no circumstance where American citizens are — carrying an American passport — are trying to get through to the airport.”

This is misleading. Reports from Afghanistan contradict this statement, and other government officials have been more cautious when describing the conditions for American citizens traveling to the airport.


They go more in depth at the link.





Posted by Pisgah Pete
Buncombe County
Member since Feb 2021
602 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 11:27 pm to
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18 mon get out plan. That was Trump’s agreement and it was to be out by May 1st. We already over stayed that. There were threads on here 6 weeks ago telling all Americans to get out. This whole thing didn’t happen overnight


1. Any American civilians still in Afghanistan at this point are selfish dumb fricks

2. Biden and the military leadership royally fricked up the withdrawal

3. You hope everyone makes it home safely

All of these can be true at the same time.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33946 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 11:31 pm to
quote:

At least until President Crenshaw.


Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33946 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 11:32 pm to
Posted by TchoupitoulasTiger
NOLA
Member since May 2011
1329 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 12:07 am to
I love that guy.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39507 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 1:23 am to
You’re as brain dead and deceitful as brainless bed-shitter biden.
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
18120 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 2:27 am to
Whatever you think of Trump or Biden everyone should be able to agree about what horrible war mongers Bush Jr and Cheney were.

I give Trump and Biden props for ending this war, it shouldve ended when we killed Bin Laden and defeated Al Qaeda.
This post was edited on 8/21/21 at 3:20 am
Posted by solus
Member since Dec 2019
3568 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 3:08 am to
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only issue with the Northern Alliance is that Afghans in general switch allegiances at every opportunity to get more money.


And that's why they are in the shite position they are in. frick that country. I wish the US would stop putting money to any groups there. And if they decide to attack the US don't send troops there just nuke it.
Posted by hojo
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2005
1366 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 4:38 am to
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Whatever you think of Trump or Biden everyone should be able to agree about what horrible war mongers Bush Jr and Cheney were.

I give Trump and Biden props for ending this war, it shouldve ended when we killed Bin Laden and defeated Al Qaeda.


Just gonna entirely skip over the 8 years of war in Afghanistan when Obama was pres. Cool, cool.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
37345 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 4:45 am to
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the 8 years of war in Afghanistan when Obama was pres.

The good ole drone strike years. Such a simpler time.
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