re: T/F - high schools should be telling students to consider trades

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rarely you absolute fricking idiot.

Do you feel better with this gotcha moment of yours?

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Youre an idiot for telling Americans to willingly accept being in a social class a full step lower to even the lowest H1B visa holder.

Its like you completely hate the men of your country. Zero ambition for them.

You'll get all the 3rd worlders you can imagine.

Awful. Never ask how we got where we are, just look in the mirror.

-Break your body
-Accept low pay while breaking your body
-High quality women ignore you because low status
-lots of hours working


Just say you hate young people and dont want them to actually flourish. Might as well send them to the mines to die for absolutely nothing.

Theres no promise of a family/marriage/retirement anymore. Anyone going in to back breaking "professions" without some stake in the social fabric is a complete idiot.

Boomers screaming "DO THE TRADES!!!" have no concept of every facet attached to accepting these positions and roles.

Drug addicts, ex cons and felons, etc. All in the trades. Its a horrible nasty culture with low pay and zero societal respect .

Would you tell your daughters to be an electrician or plumber? No? Then shut the frick up.

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You cannot be serious. You dont think electricians have to go into attics to run wire? Are you delusional? Know how I know you dont know what you're talking about?

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The overhyping of trade jobs on this board and elsewhere on social media has really jumped the shark.....almost exclusively coming from people not in the trades.


"In Hvac you can literally name your own salary"

"The trades will always be in demand no matter what"

"Right out of welding school you can make 120k/yr"


There are going to be a BUNCH of disgruntled former kids in a decade wondering where the hell these "amazing" jobs are. Hell, even right to this day its tough to get on as an apprentice for an electrician. Every kid that didn't go to college is trying to be a sparky.

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Drug addicts, ex cons and felons, etc. All in the trades. Its a horrible nasty culture with low pay and zero societal respect

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Must have caught a plumber laying the pipe to your ol lady.

1) the idea that schools don’t do this (push trades) is simply not true
2) automation is coming for trades too

High school 'guidance' counselors, by and large, are a joke.

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What percent of electricians do you think become successful business owners?

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A higher percentage than the ones with _______ study degrees.

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Wouldn't want it for my kids, but there will always be a demand for skilled trades. Kids who would otherwise go into debt to pay for college should look into it.

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Let me tell a story about a high school friend of mine. He wasn't traditionally "book" smart, but made decent grades. He went to tech school for computer programming and such (I forget the program name) starting his sophomore year. He proceeded to get every certification that he possibly could through that program, and he competed every year at the state competition. He won it his senior year, went to nationals, and placed in the top four. For his troubles he received a full ride scholarship to a local tech school. He did same thing there and finished their program in a couple of years debt free. He then went to another college where he had a partial scholarship while working. He graduated there debt free, and by the time he was done had already started his own business with a couple of employees. He still runs that business, and another today.

The bulk of his education came back in high school and cost his parents essentially nothing.

yes. there's a major shortage of auto mechanics on the horizon. within 10-20 years tuff shite getting your automobile worked on if you can't fix it yourself.

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Just shut up and let all the Indians and Chinese take all the high paying white collar tech jobs and go move to South Dakota to install HVAC systems

Pajeet will need his toilet fixed eventually you should be honored to fix it

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essentially what many in here are saying


1) financial math has been a thing in High school for decades now, its so stupid people on here try to act like it doesnt

2) all of you screaming trade school....only 35% of the US has a bachelors degree or more. ~28% in Louisiana. Trade school has been being promoted forever. So stupid to act like it hasnt been

3) yall got to stop acting like the trades make so much money. do the owners of the companies make good money? yes of course. But example, because someone said never met a poor electrician, well the median income for an electrician in Louisiana is 52-60k a year. Entry level is ~35k and median for the whole US is ~63k. other trades are worse. Sure you can make 70-100k but that will be after 5-8 years and will not be in most states

can you make good money in the trades sure...but it requires lots of overtime, sleeping away from home or you own the company which 99% of electricians are not capable of that.

not to mention, most of yall have never worked in the trades, its hard AF. its why you dont see many old guys doing it. they move into management or a different path. Its hard AF on the body.


most of you are clueless. Thats fine though...i want all of your kids to go into that kind of work, less competition for mine.