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re: Swinging pendulum of morals, values, & politics
Posted on 3/30/23 at 7:09 am to TigerNlc
Posted on 3/30/23 at 7:09 am to TigerNlc
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I’m a live and let live guy. I may think something is stupid but it’s your life. Don’t being kids into it and don’t try to force anyone into your psychotic behavior. That’s where I draw the line.
Then you’re not really a live and let live guy. You’re a live and let live until they intrude on kids lives or they force you into their life style. Point being at some point everyone has a line. The downfall of our country will be because the nice guys let that line go much further until socialism was too deeply rooted and generations will lose their freedom. Tolerance for more freedom including immoral things will eventually steal all our freedom.
Posted on 3/30/23 at 7:17 am to boxersdrule
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To me it feels like pendulum has reached the max swing in the liberal direction & now the momentum will swing back in the other direction politically. Libs are gonna be like the brat getting drug around Walmart having a tantrum. Just like that bad parent needs to discipline that spoiled child we have to straighten out the Libs as best we can & more importantly get the mindless sheep who don't vote or pay attention to WAKE UP & get their heads in the game. Has that pendulum been broken to never swing back or is some sanity ever gonna return? In our house we have drawn tighter in this mess through our Faith. Hollyweird, media, celebrities, "elites", etc are all false idols. Rejoice in the Lord! Speak up for this country & our way of life. Never cower to a bully. They thrive on us turning the other cheek. Don't be stupid & break laws but also don't cower to their evil ways.
This is fantasy.
Liberalism has finally won the decades long culture war in this country. It has control of most of our political institutions, especially the politics of large urban centers.
Liberalism has a near choke hold on news, entertainment and sports media. And finally and most importantly, it controls higher education in this country.
Conservatism as you may have known it when you were young or your parents may have known it, is all but dead.
Posted on 3/30/23 at 7:17 am to boxersdrule
One thing Jordan Peterson has said is that no one can seem to define when the left has gone too far.
Is convincing kids to become trans finally the tipping point?
Is convincing kids to become trans finally the tipping point?
Posted on 3/30/23 at 7:27 am to Pandy Fackler
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This is fantasy.
Liberalism has finally won the decades long culture war in this country. It has control of most of our political institutions, especially the politics of large urban centers.
Liberalism has a near choke hold on news, entertainment and sports media. And finally and most importantly, it controls higher education in this country.
Conservatism as you may have known it when you were young or your parents may have known it, is all but dead.
It is absolutely staggering to me that people think this is just a short term fad.
Posted on 3/30/23 at 7:27 am to boxersdrule
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I give up hard arse. What are you, one of those new gun wielding IRS agents or something???
If I am then this entire thread is full of them because everyone, including you, seems to agree the pendulum isn’t finished yet.
Posted on 3/30/23 at 7:28 am to boxersdrule
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To me it feels like pendulum has reached the max swing in the liberal direction
Wrong baw
Just wait til the big guy wins again
Posted on 3/30/23 at 7:30 am to VADawg
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It is absolutely staggering to me that people think this is just a short term fad.
Yeah there's nothing short term about it. American culture has fundamentally changed.
I don't know what the future holds for this country. I really don't.
Posted on 3/30/23 at 7:31 am to Pandy Fackler
The pendulums not swinging back this time I fear and it will end up breaking the machine this time.
Posted on 3/30/23 at 7:36 am to Open Your Eyes
Touché. Went to bed last night feeling down in the dumps about all of this BS and was fishing hoping someone could say something to lift my spirits a bit. Sadly and understandably that just can't be done.
Posted on 3/30/23 at 7:38 am to Pookers
A pendulum has a fixed point in which the bob sways back and forth from.
This isn't how anything works now. We sway left, then the fixed point moves a little more left before the bob swings back to the right.
This isn't how anything works now. We sway left, then the fixed point moves a little more left before the bob swings back to the right.
Posted on 3/30/23 at 8:12 am to boxersdrule
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Has that pendulum been broken to never swing back or is some sanity ever gonna return?
Unfortunately no. This craziness has gone way to far this time and in the fabric of many kids. They won't know anything different, and will always think some of it is ok. Why you see gay "marriage" as accepted no as it became normal.
There will have to be some very strong laws to stop it but unfortunately those won't be in place like needed. Legit actual fighting it may work, but the devil is hard to kick to the curb.
See how west coast states are doing...just legalizing weed leads to other drugs and no we are seeing where that road goes with the major mental destruction of people. Bad part is people that are leaving it to get away are bringing their crap acceptance with them as they don't know better. Company HR depts bringing CA rules that are already in place, with them.
We will really need some kind of major Christian and Patriotic reveal that has been unseen, but also unimaginable at this point too. Hope we see it, but hard to see it especially with the govt going against it.
Posted on 3/30/23 at 8:20 am to tigereye58
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Then you’re not really a live and let live guy. You’re a live and let live until they intrude on kids lives or they force you into their life style. Point being at some point everyone has a line. The downfall of our country will be because the nice guys let that line go much further until socialism was too deeply rooted and generations will lose their freedom. Tolerance for more freedom including immoral things will eventually steal all our freedom.
Exactly. The "I don't like it, but doesn't bother me none" group that the left used to fight the types that were warning against the slippery slope. To many people put to much stock in our Constitutions strength, and didn't see how the Commiecrats long game was chipping away at it.
Posted on 3/30/23 at 8:28 am to beebefootballfan
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The pendulums not swinging back this time I fear and it will end up breaking the machine this time.
Throughout history there have been battles between differing sociopolitical concepts. One side pitted against the other. This isn't new. One side loses, one side wins.
Well the concept of sociopolitical conservatism has lost. Now we all have to move on to something else and simply hope for the best.
This post was edited on 3/30/23 at 8:30 am
Posted on 3/30/23 at 8:29 am to boxersdrule
i've been hearing about this so called pendulum my whole life, and it's a fallacy. there is no pendulum. we are on an ever leftward moving train that slows down and speeds up, which creates a false sense of back and forth. the pendulum doesnt exist, and the train doesnt move right until the entire thing breaks down and gets rebuilt pointed the other direction. the entire culutural and political structure of our country is in a left wing framework now, and we just have to wait until it collapses.
Posted on 3/30/23 at 8:45 am to Sam Quint
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i've been hearing about this so called pendulum my whole life, and it's a fallacy. there is no pendulum. we are on an ever leftward moving train that slows down and speeds up, which creates a false sense of back and forth. the pendulum doesnt exist, and the train doesnt move right until the entire thing breaks down and gets rebuilt pointed the other direction. the entire culutural and political structure of our country is in a left wing framework now, and we just have to wait until it collapses.
There's iron in your words.
Upvote deployed.
Posted on 3/30/23 at 9:08 am to Aeolian Vocalion
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Not to be a killjoy, but I often think people put too much faith into this 'pendulum' paradigm. Sometimes things just keep degrading. We're talking about true civilizational rot and decay. Once the foundational truths and institutions that kept systems afloat have been removed, you don't necessarily have that remedial element of balance at play.
I think that we are in the very beginnings of complete society breakdowns... Personally I feel that we have reached the point in the USA where there are too many people wanting free stuff to ever vote in Republican leaderships again.
Think about all the lib teachers now... Just wait until those little kids in school are adults and they have kids... in 20 years this country is going to a fright to see.
Posted on 3/30/23 at 9:19 am to Sam Quint
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i've been hearing about this so called pendulum my whole life, and it's a fallacy. there is no pendulum.
This. The only "pendulum" is how broken things get before a reset of sorts. You can see this in micro examples in our own lives. 2nd law of thermo takes over, the garage gets messier and messier until one day we clean it all out. Human nature doesn't change, so we shouldn't expect the pattern to change.
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