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Surprise! Donald Trump is terrible at diplomacy. - WaPo - Update: FT Still Right

Posted on 5/24/18 at 4:26 pm
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 4:26 pm
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Trump evidently thought he would threaten China with tariffs, and Beijing would fold as quickly as one of the vendors he has made a practice of stiffing. Not so fast. China retaliated by stopping purchases of U.S. soybeans, hurting the farm states whose votes Trump needs. China also made plain it wasn’t going to pressure North Korea into concessions as long as Trump was threatening its trade.
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Lo and behold, Trump caved. First he tweeted that he would lift sanctions on Chinese telecom giant ZTE before kind of, sort of, walking it back. And then this week he ran up the white flag altogether, with Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin saying that the trade war is “on hold.” (Who knew that wars, like phone calls, could be put “on hold”?) Trump’s trade negotiators had been pushing for China to buy $200 billion more from the U.S. annually – a fantastical figure that U.S. factories and farms could not produce even if they wanted to. China refused, and the administration settled for a vague commitment to buy an unspecified amount of U.S. goods. Trump supporters such as Sen. Marco Rubio (R.-Fla.) correctly labeled this a “surrender,” because it did nothing to address China’s theft of U.S. intellectual property. Trump responded with an incomprehensible tweet: “Our Trade Deal with China is moving along nicely, but in the end we will probably have to use a different structure in that this will be too hard to get done and to verify results after completion.”


We aren’t celebrating that North Korean tensions haven’t improved. We’re doing a victory lap and telling you “I told you so”.
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 1:55 am
Posted by m2pro
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 4:27 pm to


You do try so hard.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 4:27 pm to
LOL

Back to your old scummy self I see
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 4:28 pm to
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We aren’t celebrating that North Korean tensions haven’t improved. We’re doing a victory lap and telling you “I told you so”.



The only problem with that is that it's premature

You can believe that this isn't over
Posted by TaderSalad
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 4:28 pm to
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WaPo



Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 4:28 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 8:13 am
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 4:28 pm to
Wapo such a sad organization
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 4:28 pm to
NUCLEAR WAR [ON] OFF


Liberals be like:

Posted by Bunyan
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 4:28 pm to
FT DOWNVOTE CREW [IN]

Bookmarked this one, too

Posted by Zap Rowsdower
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 4:30 pm to
I’m still curious to know where China plans on buying their soybeans from.
Posted by Dead End
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 4:32 pm to
Surprise, the left side with NK and Little Kim over POTUS.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 4:37 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 4:37 pm to
The best part is that when the deal is finalized the left will completely forget these sorts of rants and pretend they never happened.
Posted by EKG
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Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 4:38 pm to
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It’d be nice to get back to discussions on why this or that tax code works best; which approach to various foreign states is most efficacious.

Anyone up for trying that? Normal discussion between liberals and conservatives on the merits of policy?

I was hopeful.
It’s tough to do, however, when all you have to work with is a copy/paste job, and one lone comment: “We’re doing a victory lap and telling you ‘I told you so’.”
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 4:39 pm to
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I’m still curious to know where China plans on buying their soybeans from.

Probably the #2 and #3 producers of Soyabeans...

Brazil could reap benefits of China-US trade tension

Trump tariffs serve Beijing’s goal of building closer ties with Latin America

...

China is already Brazil's biggest trading partner and is becoming an important investor, ploughing nearly $21bn into Brazil last year. Neighbouring Argentina, the world's third largest soyabean producer, could benefit too.

“China’s interest in investing in Brazil and its dependence on Brazilian commodities will continue to strengthen in the current environment,” said TS Lombard analysts Elizabeth Johnson and Larry Brainard in a research note.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 4:39 pm to
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The best part is that when the deal is finalized the left will completely forget these sorts of rants and pretend they never happened.


Onward to the next manufactured outrage du jour.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 4:40 pm to
Truth, "let's have a discussion" is a throwaway line. His only goal was to gloat over what he perceives as major failures.
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 4:42 pm to
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Surprise! Donald Trump is terrible at diplomacy. - WaPo



You don't believe this.


Lame.
Posted by gthog61
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 4:42 pm to
Hahahaha

frick you

You fricking dumbshits want to leapt to declare defeat when nothing is finished.

You assholes do that with wars too.
Posted by Cruiserhog
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 4:43 pm to
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Surprise, the left side with NK and Little Kim over POTUS.


no ones siding with Kim

the article is just pointing out facts, Trump's admin is unprepared and weak on foreign policy, they have zero plans and just kinda wing it.

its showing in the results.
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