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re: Surprise! Donald Trump is terrible at diplomacy. - WaPo - Update: FT Still Right

Posted on 5/24/18 at 5:29 pm to
Posted by FT
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 5:29 pm to
This is absolutely about the merits of policy.

Alienating China while trying to court North Korea is the most classic example of putting the cart before the horse. Work with China, at least be civil, don’t attack them economically, and use the good will to push for the NK meeting and denuclearization.

This is policy. It’s important.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 5:31 pm to
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and use the good will to push for the NK meeting and denuclearization.


The left is a giant pile of bloody pussies.

60 years of appeasement has led us to where we are.
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 5:33 pm to
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We aren’t celebrating that North Korean tensions haven’t improved.




Like hell you’re not.
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 5:33 pm to
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This is policy. It’s importan


What have we lost? How has the alleged alienation of china to court NK caused the NK summit to fall through?

You are victory lapping a delay in peace with NK. It most certainly is not about policy to you.
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 5:34 pm to
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FT




You should get a NOKO flag tattooed just above your clitoris to commemorate this moment. Sure, the OT will call it trashy but those frat boys will never be down with the struggle.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 5:34 pm to
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This is absolutely about the merits of policy.

Alienating China while trying to court North Korea is the most classic example of putting the cart before the horse. Work with China, at least be civil, don’t attack them economically, and use the good will to push for the NK meeting and denuclearization.

This is policy. It’s important.


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what polcies do you want to discuss? giving Iran billions, the russia reset button, the ME dumpster-fire, creating ISIS by pulling out like a huge pussy, the 'arab spring,' closing GTMO lol, being protested in Cairo? bowing to world leaders and commies and apologizing for America?
Posted by FT
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 5:34 pm to
The difference here is that you’re temporarily appeasing China, not pushing policies that permanently help them. You can go back on the deal once you’ve brokered the deal with North Korea. Then if NK slips, because of what you did with China, China and NK are the bad guys.
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 5:36 pm to
could your marxist avi be a little more brighter?



Posted by Yat27
Austin
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 5:38 pm to
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We aren’t celebrating that North Korean tensions haven’t improved.

bullshite
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 5:38 pm to
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We aren’t celebrating that North Korean tensions haven’t improved. We’re doing a victory lap and telling you “I told you so”.



North Korea, like 5 minutes ago:

"we still want to meet with US to resolve issues"
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 5:39 pm to
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The difference here is that you’re temporarily appeasing China, not pushing policies that permanently help them.

How so?
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You can go back on the deal once you’ve brokered the deal with North Korea. Then if NK slips, because of what you did with China, China and NK are the bad guys.

What?
Posted by Tigerdev
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 5:40 pm to
This is why we don't celebrate tweets. Rather, we wait for results.
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 5:40 pm to
We unfroze accounts. We didn’t give Iran anything that wasn’t theirs.

The Middle East dumpster fire started in 2003. Barack Obama did a reasonable job of containing things, and did very little to proactively end the problems. I would have been more aggressive, but I’m not privy to all the details of the intel we had.

He should have closed GITMO.

Every US President is protested everywhere to one degree or another.

Bowing to what world leaders, and what commies? He opened up relations with Cuba after years of no relations didn’t help. He bowed once to a king, and Trump partied with the same government. No US President has been nearly as hard on Saudi Arabia as we should be.

Posted by gthog61
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 5:42 pm to
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We unfroze accounts. We didn’t give Iran anything that wasn’t theirs.



liar

pallets of cash

13 wire transfers of $99,999,999.00 to avoid oversight - why do that?

Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87353 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 5:44 pm to
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We unfroze accounts. We didn’t give Iran anything that wasn’t theirs.



Immediate access to cash that immediately went to create unrest throughout southwest asia while simultaneously stripping the USG from using sanctions to combat the destruction. The "we didn't give them anything" line is ridiculous.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 5:44 pm to
By declining to sanction them, and acting as though you want to trade more.

Read again.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 5:45 pm to
Link?
Posted by Skip Winkman
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 5:49 pm to
Jesus these fools are desperate
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 5:50 pm to
Posted by Bunyan
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 5:52 pm to
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