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Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:05 pm to loogaroo
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Supreme Court sounds skeptical of late-arriving ballots, except Roberts.
What? No hints on how to fix it? No "just change from tax to penalty" type comments?
Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:16 pm to loogaroo
It's really not all that clear of a legal issue. As a poster somewhere below posted, the Constitution says:
"The Tuesday next after the 1st Monday in November, in every even numbered year, is established as the day for the election, in each of the States and Territories of the United States, of Representatives and Delegates to the Congress commencing on the 3d day of January next thereafter."
But I can't agree that this means "case closed." Notice that nothing about the foregoing requires, e.g., that all votes must be "received" by election day, and even if it did, nothing defines "receipt," which could include not only ballots cast in person but "ballots postmarked by election day." Especially given the absence (so far) of statutory authority, I could easily see how a justice could conclude that states have the discretion to decide these matters even if I might favor a different outcome.
As a matter of policy, I believe all mail-in votes should have to be received not just by, but in time to be counted by, election day. I would also make mail-in and even early voting more restricted than it is now in many places. Mail-in ballots are inherently less secure because you have no assurance of a secret ballot, and early voting means that many votes are cast before an important event that could happen before election day. While these are my beliefs, none of this is required by the Constitution.
"The Tuesday next after the 1st Monday in November, in every even numbered year, is established as the day for the election, in each of the States and Territories of the United States, of Representatives and Delegates to the Congress commencing on the 3d day of January next thereafter."
But I can't agree that this means "case closed." Notice that nothing about the foregoing requires, e.g., that all votes must be "received" by election day, and even if it did, nothing defines "receipt," which could include not only ballots cast in person but "ballots postmarked by election day." Especially given the absence (so far) of statutory authority, I could easily see how a justice could conclude that states have the discretion to decide these matters even if I might favor a different outcome.
As a matter of policy, I believe all mail-in votes should have to be received not just by, but in time to be counted by, election day. I would also make mail-in and even early voting more restricted than it is now in many places. Mail-in ballots are inherently less secure because you have no assurance of a secret ballot, and early voting means that many votes are cast before an important event that could happen before election day. While these are my beliefs, none of this is required by the Constitution.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:20 pm to AlterEd
Trump will not be a candidate in the next presidential election and a decision in this case will not affect Trump completing his second term!! Roberts' decision on the case has nothing to do with Trump.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:25 pm to Hale Lipari
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Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:28 pm to loogaroo
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Get a life outside of your parents' basement!!
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Get a life outside of your parents' basement!!
Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:29 pm to loogaroo
Election Day should be a national holiday. Vote in person only. No early voting no mail in ballots. Absentee ballots only for military overseas and elderly/disabled who cannot drive to a polling station and the elderly/disabled must have a signed form from their doctor stating as such
Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:31 pm to AlterEd
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Roberts is compromised. Of course he doesn't want to fix it. He wants Trump gone.
The sad part about this is this country has become pussified and we are letting far left politics along with legacy media control things. We have to stand up to this crap and start educating our children and grandchildren as to what the hell is really happening. Before too long, it will be too late and that makes me very sad and very mad.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:31 pm to Hale Lipari
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Get a life outside of your parents' basement!!
Don't be a pussy using alters.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:33 pm to loogaroo
first, not an alter - second, don't be a pussy posting 42000 times - get a life and a job - do you not see the irony of your post?
Posted on 3/23/26 at 6:00 pm to AlterEd
He is paid by the DEMS…. Millions!
Posted on 3/23/26 at 6:04 pm to N.O. via West-Cal
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But I can't agree that this means "case closed." Notice that nothing about the foregoing requires, e.g., that all votes must be "received" by election day, and even if it did, nothing defines "receipt," which could include not only ballots cast in person but "ballots postmarked by election day." Especially given the absence (so far) of statutory authority, I could easily see how a justice could conclude that states have the discretion to decide these matters even if I might favor a different outcome.
bullshite. When they wrote that they had no concept of mail in voting, early voting, or any of this other bullshite. They intended for people to vote, in person, on that day and that day only.
This post was edited on 3/23/26 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 3/23/26 at 7:04 pm to mikie421
“When they wrote that they had no concept of mail in voting, early voting, or any of this other bullshite. They intended for people to vote, in person, on that day and that day only.”
I have no way of knowing if this is true, but this would mean no absentee voting at all. In any event, none of what you say was intended is expressly stated, hence the expanded ways of voting we have had for decades and perhaps longer.
I have no way of knowing if this is true, but this would mean no absentee voting at all. In any event, none of what you say was intended is expressly stated, hence the expanded ways of voting we have had for decades and perhaps longer.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 7:05 pm to deltaland
quote:I agree with all of this except one.
Election Day should be a national holiday. Vote in person only. No early voting no mail in ballots. Absentee ballots only for military overseas and elderly/disabled who cannot drive to a polling station and the elderly/disabled must have a signed form from their doctor stating as such
Some people such as myself work out of state and sometimes cannot vote in person. I should be able to get an absentee ballot if I prove I will be out of state during the election.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:24 pm to N.O. via West-Cal
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The Tuesday next after the 1st Monday in November, in every even numbered year, is established as the day for the election,
Using the SCOTUS own precedent and logic, ie guns
There was no mail in or early voting at the time the constitution was written. it was all in person voting on the day of the election.
I believe congress allowed for soldiers overseas to vote by ballot to be provided but otherwise, the only method authorized by the constitution is in person on the day of. Now, states have modified when to vote ie early voting but all votes must be cast on the day of the election as written in the constitution.
I do not believe that a mailed ballot not received on election day or before is a legal ballot. My ,.02
Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:44 pm to loogaroo
Only with voting is it acceptable to turn in something late, evenly extremely later, and it still count.
Can't do it at work. Your arse will get fired.
Can't do it at school. Your arse will fail.
Can't do it with bills. They will shut off your accounts/garnish your checks.
I mean where's the common sense? This shite is getting dumber by the day....
Can't do it at work. Your arse will get fired.
Can't do it at school. Your arse will fail.
Can't do it with bills. They will shut off your accounts/garnish your checks.
I mean where's the common sense? This shite is getting dumber by the day....
Posted on 3/24/26 at 1:25 am to loogaroo
This is cut and dry by the Constitution. The Constitution says states set the time place and manner of elections. However in Federal elections congress sets the rules, in federal elections, federal rules set by congress over ride any state rules set. Federal law has set a date for federal elections and states must comply with that law and date to be counted. All votes should have to be in before polls close on election day to be counted. This is just another instance of democrats wanting everyone else to accommodate their incompetence and laziness. If you choose to vote by mail then you should have your vote filled out and mailed in by the set date.Just the same as the Save America Act. If it passes all states will have to id voters in Federal elections.
This post was edited on 3/24/26 at 1:39 am
Posted on 3/24/26 at 6:45 am to N.O. via West-Cal
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As a matter of policy, I believe all mail-in votes should have to be received not just by, but in time to be counted by, election day. I would also make mail-in and even early voting more restricted than it is now in many places. Mail-in ballots are inherently less secure because you have no assurance of a secret ballot, and early voting means that many votes are cast before an important event that could happen before election day. While these are my beliefs, none of this is required by the Constitution.
I agree. People mailing in ballots simply must be responsible and get their ballot mailed sooner to insure it arrives by election day, or it won't be counted.
Another very simple "issue" , yet here we are having SCOTUS consider it!
A fricking clown world.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 7:51 am to N.O. via West-Cal
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It's really not all that clear of a legal issue.
Probably because our forefathers never envisioned a republic stupid enough to have mail in ballots. lol
Its quite clear though. and to argue nuances is nonsense.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 7:55 am to deltaland
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Absentee ballots only for military overseas and elderly/disabled who cannot drive to a polling station and the elderly/disabled must have a signed form from their doctor stating as such
Heck in Alabama you have to apply for a form to receive a ballot. Must include the form, witnessed and two utility bills with your photo id copy. THEN you get the ballot which must have two witnesses.
A pain in the arse which is exactly as its designed to be, people need to get off their arse and vote.
Still pisses me off the voter motor nonsense where you are registered when you get your license. Then use that dmv list to mail you a ballot without requesting it. Built in fraud.
This post was edited on 3/24/26 at 8:00 am
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