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re: Superfit Doctor Dies of a Heart Attack While Swimming During Triathlon Training
Posted on 9/3/22 at 12:05 pm to LakeCharles
Posted on 9/3/22 at 12:05 pm to LakeCharles
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Maybe if we had some government organization tracking effects of a new and novel vaccine mandated for the public
We do. And there’s 30,000 deaths associated with the vaccine in VAERS.
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Posted on 9/3/22 at 12:05 pm to Geauxgurt
Yea no more of that goal post moving BS. Sometimes the answer is simple. Healthcare personnel and athletes were mandated this stuff.
This was a doctor. Not a random Joe. The undiagnosed heart and lung issues is called untested vaccinations. Who is going to diagnose that? Phizer?
This was a doctor. Not a random Joe. The undiagnosed heart and lung issues is called untested vaccinations. Who is going to diagnose that? Phizer?
Posted on 9/3/22 at 12:12 pm to LatherZap
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then I wonder if this is truly happening more often or if the reporting only makes it look that way
You mean the reporting that was paid to show vaccines in a good light? Promoted mandates and lotteries and free beer for a COVID jab? Lied about infection statistics and death ratios? Fudged the data so it seemed like kids were contracting COVID at high rates, transmitting and being hospitalized with serious complications? Or maybe that were reporting that the vaccinated were hospitalized at a lower clip than unvaccinated?
You talking about that controlled reporting that covered and copped out "misinformation"?
I don't remember seeing doctors and athletes dropping dead like this. It's usually drugs or crime. I'd say it must be happening a lot for us to be catching enough stories that it's becoming a little bit alarming.
Posted on 9/3/22 at 12:25 pm to Northwestern tiger
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People who contribute these random deaths to Covid shot are beyond stupid. They’re insane. And I’m no fan of the jab
gonna go out on a limb and say this is another case of confusing "cardiac arrest" (heart stops beating) for heart attack (myocardial infarction).
dude drowned in a current and his heart stopped, its not the same as a myocardial infarction fatality.
Posted on 9/3/22 at 12:28 pm to GhostOfFreedom
While I do believe the vaccine is harming healthy people, triathlons and such kill healthy people every year. That level of stress on the heart simply isn't healthy.
Posted on 9/3/22 at 12:31 pm to AMS
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A superfit Aberdeen doctor has died after having a heart attack while swimming in a loch.
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gonna go out on a limb and say
I'm sorry, are you a doctor?
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dude drowned in a current and his heart stopped
Or a biologist?
Posted on 9/3/22 at 12:33 pm to Northwestern tiger
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People who contribute these random deaths to Covid shot are beyond stupid. They’re insane. And I’m no fan of the jab
People who dismiss this as a potential result of the covid shot or covid itself are not so smart either. We have to wait until the actual data comes in. We currently know that both covid and the covid shots can cause blood clots. The extent of it is not yet known and some officials don't want it known any time soon. It will come out in time though.
My wife's close friend's significant other got life threatening blood clots in both lungs after his booster. My cousin lost all but 40% of his hearing in one ear after his second shot.
Posted on 9/3/22 at 12:35 pm to Herooftheday
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I'm sorry, are you a doctor?
actually, yes.
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Or a biologist?
like most docs, I have a degree in biology
+1 for the humor tho
This post was edited on 9/3/22 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 9/3/22 at 12:59 pm to AMS
So the cause of death is actually drowning here?
Posted on 9/3/22 at 1:35 pm to ChEgrad
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Triathlon Training
Not a fan of forced shots, but above is likely the issue…
There is a Goldilocks zone for exercise. Most folks are on one extreme (not enough). Some folks are on the other extreme (compulsive exercise in part due to pride trying to masquerade as “healthy”). Folks in this camp have arrhythmias (“ He was so “healthy” right up until he dropped dead…”)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32848273/
Training for Longevity: The Reverse J-Curve for Exercise
Evan L O'Keefe 1 , Noel Torres-Acosta 2 , James H O'Keefe 3 , Carl J Lavie 4
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PMID: 32848273 PMCID: PMC7431070
Free PMC article
Full text links Cite
Abstract
A wealth of scientific literature backs the unique therapeutic benefits of exercise for quality of life, cardiovascular (CV) health, and longevity. Consequently, many have assumed that more exercise is always better. However, chronic excessive endurance exercise might adversely impact CV health. Ultra-endurance races can inflict acute myocardial damage, as evidenced by elevations in troponin and brain natriuretic peptide. Moreover, sudden cardiac arrest occurs more often in marathons and triathlons than in shorter races. Veteran endurance athletes often show abnormal cardiac remodeling with increased risk for myocardial fibrosis and coronary calcification. Chronic excessive exercise has been consistently associated with increased risks of atrial fibrillation (AF), and along with some attenuation of longevity benefits. The optimal dose of exercise remains unknown and probably differs among individuals. Current studies suggest that 2.5 to 5 hours/week of moderate or vigorous physical activity will confer maximal benefits; >10 hours/week may reduce these health benefits.
This post was edited on 9/3/22 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 9/3/22 at 1:38 pm to G I Jeaux
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Perhaps he really was not "superfit". At least his heart wasn't. I was in a triathlon in 2015. A friend died of a heart attack during the run., She was a veteran of over 10 triathlons and many more 5 and 10k road races. She trained for years and never presented any problems.
Exhibit A
The more you know, Jeaux…
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superfit
Nah, overtrained…
This post was edited on 9/3/22 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 9/3/22 at 1:46 pm to GhostOfFreedom
Time to put this to rest.
When you have several major & mutually exclusive causes of death showing all time high spikes in most every age stratified group... you are a fricking fool if you can't see something is horrifically wrong.
Think people.
When you have several major & mutually exclusive causes of death showing all time high spikes in most every age stratified group... you are a fricking fool if you can't see something is horrifically wrong.
Think people.
Posted on 9/3/22 at 2:23 pm to Northwestern tiger
I remember when Florence Griffith Joyner, Hank Gathers, and Pete Maravich died from the vax.
Posted on 9/3/22 at 3:01 pm to GhostOfFreedom
From the CDC website:
Myocarditis and pericarditis have rarely been reported. When reported, the cases have especially been in adolescents and young adult males within several days after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna).
Also:
Of course, they don't give percentages or actual numbers. They just say "rarely"
Myocarditis and pericarditis have rarely been reported. When reported, the cases have especially been in adolescents and young adult males within several days after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna).
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More often after the second dose
Usually within a week of vaccination
Of course, they don't give percentages or actual numbers. They just say "rarely"
Posted on 9/3/22 at 3:24 pm to Othello
quote:"Griffith Joyner died in her sleep at home in the Canyon Crest neighborhood of Mission Viejo, California, at the age of 38. The unexpected death was investigated by the Orange County Sheriff-Coroner's office, which announced on September 22 that the cause of death was suffocation during a severe epileptic seizure.[54]
I remember when Florence Griffith Joyner, Hank Gathers, and Pete Maravich died from the vax.
Griffith Joyner was found to have had a cavernous hemangioma, a congenital vascular brain abnormality that made her subject to seizures."
So, known cause of death. No vax death for Griffith Joyner.
I remember when I went cycling with her husband Al Joyner, Ken Griffey, Jr., and Bo Jackson. 65 miles one day, 58 miles the next through the mountains of North Alabama.
Joyner had no conditioning. Griffey was out of shape. Bo was conditioned and tried to keep up with me and the rest of the handful of cyclists at the front. Dusted Bo and Griffey. This was officially the only time I have dusted a world class athlete.
and there were THREE of them. Brilliant. Just brilliant.
This post was edited on 9/3/22 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 9/3/22 at 3:39 pm to the808bass
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Maybe if we had some government organization tracking effects of a new and novel vaccine mandated for the public
We do. And there’s 30,000 deaths associated with the vaccine in VAERS.
Yes, we do. The CDC and NIH. They should have vaccination records, death records, hospitalization records, and doctor records, and be able to run through the data of vaxed vs unvaxed pretty easily. VAERS data is more anecdotal than what is needed for this. First there is the problem of time between vaccination and the onset of symptoms. If someone dies with the needle in their arm at Walmart, it's pretty obvious. If it is 6 months later there is a temporal difference that would cause many to not recognize the connection - and there may not be one. That is why more granular data is needed. Also with VAERS, people say that only 10% of adverse events get reported. With all the focus on covid and the vaccine, it is possible that the number is much higher. Every doctor visit and hospitalization gets recorded with codes for symptoms and diagnosis and it is all in a database. There has been so much bull shite in this whole episode from people dying with bullet holes in their heads being coded as a covid death to not having anything other than VAERS to look at adverse reactions - my trust in medicine has taken a huge hit. My faith in the ability of government to ever do the right thing is completely gone.
Posted on 9/3/22 at 4:02 pm to Penrod
Are you saying that myocarditis and Afib are not known side effects? Phizer would disagree
Posted on 9/3/22 at 4:28 pm to Herooftheday
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So the cause of death is actually drowning here?
no, its cardiac arrest, but very common misconception that cardiac arrest means heart attack.
1 of 3 things happened:
1) he drowned causing cardiac arrest.
2) he did have a heart attack which weakened him significantly causing him to drown before the heart attack would be fatal.
3) heart attack killed him before drowning.
an analogy: someone dies in a car crash. I would suspect the trauma caused cardiac arrest well before I'd think they a heart attack and died before the collision. although they may have had a heart attack which caused the collision, the trauma was fatal before the heart attack could cause an arrest.
essentially its just water is dangerous. he most likely drowned causing arrest whether or not he had a heart attack
Posted on 9/3/22 at 4:47 pm to AMS
If that was the case Wouldn’t the coroner label the cause of death accidental drowning?
Posted on 9/3/22 at 5:38 pm to GhostOfFreedom
My father, my uncle, my grandmother, my grandfather, half of my cousins, and myself suffer from:
stfu
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An inherited blood-clotting disorder due to a mutation of the blood's factor V protein.
Factor V Leiden increases the chance of clumps of blood (clots) developing, which can be life-threatening. Women with the disorder risk developing blood clots during pregnancy or when taking the hormone estrogen.
Most people never develop symptoms. However, the first indication of the disorder may be the development of a blood clot (thrombosis).
Treatment may include blood-thinning drugs.
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How common is factor V Leiden (FVL)? In the U.S., FVL is present in approximately 5% of the general population.
stfu
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