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re: Sunny Hostin is now claiming that President Abraham Lincoln didn't emancipate the slaves.

Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:31 pm to
Posted by Bigbens42
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:31 pm to
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Which weren’t even under his authority, at that time. Therefore, no one was actually freed.


Except they were. It was a rebellion successfully put down.

It was just on a bit of a time delay as the Union re-established law and order in the South piece by piece. About a million people gained freedom as the Union gained ground.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:33 pm to
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Except they were. It was a rebellion successfully put down.


Incorrect. The emancipation proclamation occurred almost 2 1/2 years before the war ended. It was done as a recruiting ploy.
Posted by Bigbens42
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:39 pm to
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Incorrect. The emancipation proclamation occurred almost 2 1/2 years before the war ended. It was done as a recruiting ploy.


More than a recruiting ploy. It literally reframed the entire war for the European powers that might have been sympathetic toward the South (populace of Europe was heavily abolitionist at the time, but there was some sympathy in British leadership), and made it politically untenable for them to support the rebellion.

But it also actively freed slaves as the war wore on and the Union consolidated their gains.
Posted by BuzzSaw 12
The Dark Side Of The Moon
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:44 pm to
Good. Does this mean we can send them all back to Africa?
Posted by International_Aggie
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:44 pm to
If slaves can free themselves, they're not slaves.
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
Member since Nov 2013
22559 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:45 pm to
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If slaves can free themselves, they're not slaves.


Let me tell you about the Dred Scott decision.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:48 pm to
Good. Then it is time to get rid of Juneteenth!

The 13th Amendment freed slaves not covered by the Proclamation of Emancipation.

I wonder how this bitch doesn’t drown when it rains.
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 9:01 pm to
Well for once she is right.

The emancipation proclamation did not free one slave. It was mocked by European papers, where slavery was ended peacefully long before, as Lincoln’s effort to invoke slave rebellions in confederate occupied states.
The emancipation proclamation did not free one slave in any state controlled by the union where they actually had the power to free them.

Lincoln was easily one of the worst presidents in the history of this country. A tyrant responsible for 600,000 deaths- a percentage of the population equivalent to 5.37 million in today’s population
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 9:10 pm to
Then she probably didn't know that the proclamation was questionably constitutional hence after the war, they rushed through the 13th Amendment.
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 9:12 pm to
growing up our maids were black now they're mexican yard guys too!


ahah is wise!
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
144127 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:00 am to
Who listens to these fools?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
29436 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:02 am to
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She says the slaves emancipated themselves...


So the civil war wasn't about slavery?

Interesting.

Break out the stars and bars boys! It's not racist anymore.
Posted by Friscodog
Ruston, LA. (Formerly Frisco TX)
Member since Jul 2009
5335 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:14 am to
What does ole Sunny have to say about Slavery today?



Countries with the Highest Numbers

According to the Global Slavery Index, the nations with the highest total number of people in modern slavery are:

• India: ~11.0 million
• China: ~5.8 million
• North Korea: ~2.7 million
• Pakistan: ~2.4 million
• Russia: ~1.9 million
• Indonesia: ~1.8 million
• Nigeria: ~1.6 million
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
51151 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:19 am to
Then put ‘em back to work!
Posted by Louisianalabguy
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:27 am to
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The View's Sunny Hostin is now claiming that President Abraham Lincoln didn't emancipate the slaves.

Just remember Lincoln was a republican. Their hatred is that deep. Just wait till they start tearing down his statues.
They are all marxists at their core. Marxism demands the complete erasing of history and rewriting. If they get enough power, it will happen.
Example: I've lived in the deep south my entire life. Yes, the KKK was definitely a powerful DEMOCRATIC terrorist organization. Always was, always will be. I clearly remember proud democratic politicians extolling the philosophy of the KKK while campaigning even for president. The brainwashing has been so intense that most people today believe it is a republican organization. If they and their media puppets can convince an entire generation of this then up can be down, men can be women, evil is good.
We are truly living out the novel "1984" by George Orwell.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
37325 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:28 am to
That fool needs to be called out. The man literally LOST HIS LIFE freeing slaves. What a clown.
This post was edited on 11/12/26 at 8:29 am
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
9360 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:34 am to
Then why is there a Juneteenth?
This post was edited on 11/12/26 at 8:35 am
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
22939 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:35 am to
So she admits that they overcame her family trading them?
Posted by Louisianalabguy
Member since Jul 2017
2157 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:39 am to
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What does ole Sunny have to say about Slavery today?


Yet another great argument that 0 conservative politicians and pundits make. Am I the only person in the US that can easily see that we have been importing millions of new slaves to the US?
Comrade Hostin and 100% of the left wing media desperately push the concept that racism is worse now than ever yet faithfully belong to and fanatically vote for the party of the KKK.
At the same time most republican politicians and pundits simply don't argue or rebuke these claims.
Crazy times we are living in to say the least
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
37325 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:39 am to
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Does this mean we can send them all back to Africa?


Interesting comment pertaining to this. Lincoln comtemplated sending "freed slaves" to Liberia (Africa) opining blacks and whites couldn't coexist. Frederick Douglass talked him out of that (I'm slamming a lot of stuff together to not have a dissertation.) In the 1980s as more and more 'obscure' facts and historical trivia became easier to access 'enlighten blacks' and of course white liberals starting jumping on the Lincoln wasn't that big of a deal train since he considering sending blacks back to Africa.
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