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re: Stunning Admission By Renowned Atheist; Decline of Christianity is Hurting Society
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:25 pm to tiggerthetooth
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:25 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Who decided being faithful, caring and supportive was good?
My wife and I when we got married.
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What is the foundation for calling those actions good?
That I love her and want to see her happy? I don't follow your question.
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:26 pm to Perfect Circle
Western society would not have been as successful and prosperous as it became to be without Christianity.
Christianity is the guard rails of western civilization and makes sure we always take stock of everything we do and judge it to be ethically defensible or absolutely indefensible.
Removing those guard rails turns western civilization into a jump ball tossup and gives us the opportunity to to devolve into a very selfish and hedonistic beyond belief society.
Christianity is the guard rails of western civilization and makes sure we always take stock of everything we do and judge it to be ethically defensible or absolutely indefensible.
Removing those guard rails turns western civilization into a jump ball tossup and gives us the opportunity to to devolve into a very selfish and hedonistic beyond belief society.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:26 pm to ShortyRob
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Well, and, I mean............is that dude really saying that every day he wakes up wishing he could go on a murderous rampage and the only thing standing in his way is that the Bible told him not to?
Because yeah. That's fricking scary.
For some, probably a really small minority, that might actually be true.
But it's stupid assume it just goes from 0 to murderous rampage.
Anger, hate, jealousy, gluttony, covetousness. These are paths to acts of evil. They are small seeds, but when allowed to fester and grow, they can create very bad things.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:28 pm to theronswanson
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How do you know God gave you a conscience?
Well you sure as hell can't go buy one at the store now can you?
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:29 pm to tiggerthetooth
quote:Well, true.
Anger, hate, jealousy, gluttony, covetousness. These are paths to acts of evil. They are small seeds, but when allowed to fester and grow, they can create very bad things.
But I can assure that like most humans, I've done things I'm not proud of in my life. HOWEVER. Not one single time have I ever done so because I thought to myself, "frick it, there's no God so I'm good".
The idea that the only thing standing between me murdering someone or not would be words in the Bible is fricking horrid.
I'm sorry. If a person has actually thought to themselves, "gee, I fricking really want to murder all those people.........but God would be mad"...........that's a fricking REALLY bad person!
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:29 pm to theronswanson
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My wife and I when we got married.
Why did you decide those things specifically?
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That I love her and want to see her happy? I don't follow your question.
What is your definition of "love"? What's the physical evidence of that ?
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:30 pm to Perfect Circle
People committed crimes throughout all of history.
If people weren’t murdering each other “don’t murder” wouldn’t be a focal point of almost every religion across the world.
If people weren’t murdering each other “don’t murder” wouldn’t be a focal point of almost every religion across the world.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:30 pm to tiggerthetooth
quote:Silly question
Why did you decide those things specifically?
quote:One doesn't need physical evidence for something they feel themselves.
What is your definition of "love"? What's the physical evidence of that ?
Just sayin........
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:31 pm to Perfect Circle
Duh. When people who innately are guided by evolutionary self interest instinct, and believe that it's one and done with zero accountability...it's not rocket science to predict their action. Dogfight for the meat. 
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:33 pm to BuckyCheese
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I'm not religious at all but have always understood the teachings of the church were necessary for an ordered society.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:33 pm to ShortyRob
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Hey Foo. THIS is how it's done.
No multi paragraph bull shite fests implying you've got some hard and fast provable logic. Just fricking say it's your faith and call it a day.
Amen.
FooManChoo does a disservice to christianity with his overbearing bible thumping posts.
I have faith in God and truly believe that Jesus Christ did what he did on that cross to save us all. I don't know I believe it, I just know that I believe it.
And that's the end of the story for me and is not something I will force on others.
Btw, have you noticed stories about christianity in asia surging? Surging so much that the commie chinese are cracking down on it?
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:33 pm to tiggerthetooth
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What is your definition of "love"? What's the physical evidence of that ?
Oh my. I can't figure out your angle. I think you mean to ask a few more remarkably broad questions then state I only have those feelings because of Christianity and that the Bible dictates how I should act in my marriage.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:33 pm to SidewalkDawg
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Additionally, I'm a human being capable of empathy. I don't want to be murdered so I'm quite certain others don't want to be murdered either.
This is the "Golden Rule,"...Treat others the way you want to be treated.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:36 pm to FooManChoo
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Of course it is. The logical outflowing of atheism is that there is no objective moral standard and no inherent human value. What kind of society are you going to have when you claim a utilitarian view of existence? The kind that says the ends justify the means.
2Kings 2:23 Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and mocked him and said to him, “Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!” 2Kings 2:24 When he looked behind him and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their number.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:38 pm to theronswanson
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because I am a rational human being
Humans aren’t rational.
We’re emotional.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:40 pm to Perfect Circle
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Have you not heard of that madman who lit a lantern in the bright morning hours, ran to the market-place, and cried incessantly: "I am looking for God! I am looking for God!" As many of those who did not believe in God were standing together there, he excited considerable laughter. Have you lost him, then? said one. Did he lose his way like a child? said another. Or is he hiding? Is he afraid of us? Has he gone on a voyage? or emigrated? Thus they shouted and laughed. The madman sprang into their midst and pierced them with his glances.
"Where has God gone?" he cried. "I shall tell you. We have killed him - you and I. We are his murderers. But how have we done this? How were we able to drink up the sea? Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the entire horizon? What did we do when we unchained the earth from its sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving now? Away from all suns? Are we not perpetually falling? Backward, sideward, forward, in all directions? Is there any up or down left? Are we not straying as through an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty space? Has it not become colder? Is it not more and more night coming on all the time? Must not lanterns be lit in the morning? Do we not hear anything yet of the noise of the gravediggers who are burying God? Do we not smell anything yet of God's decomposition? Gods too decompose. God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we, murderers of all murderers, console ourselves? That which was the holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet possessed has bled to death under our knives. Who will wipe this blood off us? With what water could we purify ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we not ourselves become gods simply to be worthy of it? There has never been a greater deed; and whosoever shall be born after us - for the sake of this deed he shall be part of a higher history than all history hitherto."
Nietzsche called it over 100 years ago.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:41 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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What are the successful ones who have eschewed all "Religious experience"?
What angle are you shooting for here? I didn't make this claim.
My point was that individuals don't need a religious experience to understand societal morals. We simply can look to the past to see which social contracts make the best society. Most of those certainly have a basis in religion.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:41 pm to Sentrius
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Western society would not have been as successful and prosperous as it became to be without Christianity.
Christianity is the guard rails of western civilization and makes sure we always take stock of everything we do and judge it to be ethically defensible or absolutely indefensible.
Removing those guard rails turns western civilization into a jump ball tossup and gives us the opportunity to to devolve into a very selfish and hedonistic beyond belief society.
Jewish people were doing just this whole time
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:41 pm to theronswanson
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I am a rational human being
You can tell this yourself all you want but it's not true as that's not how we are designed.
As human beings, we are by nature emotional as hell and act on those emotions daily.
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