re: Strip away whataboutism, election fraud, and specific GOPE policies, what does MAGA offer?

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If you guys would totally ignore SFP and not respond to a single post of his, the attention seeking would go away..that's a fact! He brings nothing to a discussion that's worth your time.

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You don’t have to like or agree with him, but this is just flat out false

This is the most measured, non-echo chamber attempt at a discussion on this board that I’ve seen since… well, his last thread.

If you can’t calmly (unemotionally) answer his questions without getting bitchy, then he probably has a pretty good point.

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that he's hypocritical. Yes, I did.

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No. It's not his fault that the GOV did that to the USA. It's the world they created and now we want to reverse that.

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acknowledgement that your'e a race baiting, child molester defending, 5th rate lawer.

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Are you making an accusation that he's a public defender or that he at some point defended an accused pedophile?

Weird, weird flex.

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Principles are always more important than blindly following trends.

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Dear Baby Jesus, that's vapid. And of course, it's an unbelievable moral conceit, to make the assertion that Trump voters are unprincipled. It's just sophistry and could be disproven by simply opening your ears, eyes and mind. Are they the MOST principled-that's an honest debate.

It's intellectually dishonest to ask why people are pro-Trump and then reflexively discard every reason given because it offends your sensibilities. I mean, I can't comprehend how somebody could be so hopeless as to vote for Biden, but I at least attach value to why they do it when they explain it to me. Oh Pimp ya know I believe we should slice and dice infants-I mean nonviable tissue mass, so I can't vote for Republicans, for instance.

You'd do well to exhibit just a smidgen of humility. Trump's movement is after all, the biggest counter-cultural political movement of our lives. You'd think a guy who fancies himself to be instinctually superior to the poor rubes on the PT would be interested in why people are going to line up to vote for him again. You'd think.

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that he's hypocritical. Yes, I did.

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We don’t have a choice….that’s kind of the whole point.

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I think he would have gotten a lot more accomplished had he not had people in his own administration backstabbing him, secretly leaking stuff, and not have people suing to block all of his EO's.

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Dont forget the RINO senators McCain and Romney, the first of whom voted to keep Obamacare despite saying he’d vote to repeal Obamacare during his final reelection bid. Also: McCain helped to get the Steele dossier into the hands of the IC. Very duplicitous indeed.

And don’t forget: Congress (Senate) voted against a $2~3 billion border wall while - two years later - have voted to spend an order of magnitude greater of our tax dollars on Ukraine! Meanwhile, the immigrants and fentanyl continue to flood in. Honk!

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So only trade with nations where the workers own the means of production? Who wants to tell him?

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Nice twist but no…that’s not what I meant.

Companies with a free labor and business market were everything, including the accumulation of wealth via production and trade, isn’t owned by the state.

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buggy whip sector

So many posters saying "WTF?"

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ok.
midwest buggy whip manufacturers got a bill passed so automobile must have man go ahead on foot with a lantern to warn horses. protectionism.

Someone that cares about the future of the country and not keeping the system going .

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Strip away whataboutism, election fraud, and specific GOPE policies, what does MAGA offer?

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Strip away whataboutism and bullshite in general, how come you never ask questions like this or any questions about Biden or any democrat leaders?

You claim you're not a progressive. I don't think you're being honest. Kind of like Hank used to do before he finally dropped the pretense