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re: Strategies to win over more moderate democrats

Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:13 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476567 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:13 am to
quote:

And I don’t think abortion is the winning issue you think for Dems. If it was so popular they wouldn’t have to call it reproductive rights.


Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50738 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:15 am to
quote:

What percent of the US population is MAGA in your opinion?


Somewhere between 25 and 30%
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:17 am to
quote:

You can't win the EC without those moderates voting for Trump
you can if you get them to stay home out of disgust for both sides.

It's the only hope. The establishment types didn't lift a finger let them pump up J6 and paint Trump as Hitler and almost 50% of this country thinks socialism (the communist precursor) is the system America should be. Multiple polls have shown this.

So you put the two together- they are not ever going to vote for Trump. He's not socialist and he's Hitler 2.0.

The only way is to get them to stay home and don't let some NGO fill out a ballot in their name.
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
54552 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:23 am to
quote:

Somewhere between 25 and 30%


You believe a national election can be won with 30% of the vote? Unless Ross Perot comes back from the dead and makes it a true threeway race while getting 20%, you have to get into the upper 40s% to have a realistic chance in a normal binary cycle.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
9388 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:25 am to
Have Trump's handlers make him stick to the teleprompter and stay off social media.

All Trump has to do is stick to the teleprompter and stay off social media, but he can't because he is too impulsive and has the emotional intelligence of a teenage girl who just got dumped.
This post was edited on 8/7/24 at 9:26 am
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:26 am to
quote:

What are some ways Trump...can win over less than leftist democrats.


Go back to 2015 and do the opposite of what he did for the last 9 years.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35908 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:27 am to
quote:

Edited for accuracy. We understand it, we just understand that it has a ceiling. Look at his approval and disapproval numbers; not everybody likes the schtick. And it's not needed at this point, certainly not like it was in 2016. He has a record, his opponent has a record. The people who live to lick the sweat off his warts are already voting for him, so dialing it back is smart politics.


I understand where you are coming from and obviously there is a spectrum of acceptable communication that we all have to operate on and Trump can’t be wildly to one side.

I’ll put it like this. Trump need to be far less concerned than his opponents on saying what he thinks the majority of people want to hear and more focused on concisely conveying the truth of our political realities, which is where I think his appeal is grounded.

Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25893 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:28 am to
quote:

amirite


Very rarely.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50738 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:31 am to
quote:

You believe a national election can be won with 30% of the vote?


Are you under the impression that 100% of the population votes?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35908 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:32 am to
Just sayin dude.

If everyone loved abortion they’d be hammering that word night and day.

They don’t. I think you know why.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50738 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:33 am to
quote:

All Trump has to do is stick to the teleprompter and stay off social media


I mean.....



Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
40363 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:34 am to
Eliminate voter fraud.




We’ve already won them Over.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:35 am to
quote:

And I don’t think abortion is the winning issue you think for Dems.


If that were true, Republicans would mention it in their platform or at their convention.

They don't and they didn't, because they know you're a dumbass.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
139352 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:36 am to
quote:

Trump needs to quit looking petty or revengeful. He needs to hammer these people on the border, inflation, law and order, and national security.

The differences are obvious.

Btw, you want to win votes, but if you discourage Dems from voting to lessen their turnout that works too.

When they debate show the opponent respect. Stay on target, issues. Don’t get into name calling. We need the Trump from the last debate.


I agree with all of this. The current economic woes are the result of the current administration solely, just stick with facts, costs of goods/living, etc. Be nice and avoid talking about her many genders/ethnicities.
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
5439 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:36 am to
Money

The economy

Inflation

Grocery prices

Car price

Gas prices

Cost of a college education (not loan forgiveneess, just tuition in general)

notice a trend??? This stuff hits home every time.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13429 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:36 am to
quote:

If they run on it, there will be easy responses to thwart it.


But will they be effective?

I'm with Flats. Probably not.

Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97947 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:36 am to
Does that upset you?
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90538 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:36 am to
Bamafool still grinding it out today!

Come on man you got Tampon Tim in your corner! Be happy!
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11847 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:36 am to
You don't think sleepy joe is gonna bust in through the wall of the convention like Kool-Aid man and seize back the nomination?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35908 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:39 am to
quote:

that were true, Republicans would mention it in their platform or at their convention. They don't and they didn't, because they know you're a dumbass.


Umm Trump bragged about it at the debate where he made the Dem candidate quit.

Lol.
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