re: Stop worrying about the debt

What is the worry? It’s just money — can’t we just print more?

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So why were we worried about it under Biden

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It was a good, viable talking point.

Did I actually care? Yes, and no. I want the debt to come down, but it literally takes an act of Congress. And Congress is a worthless conglomerate of corrupt entities that exist solely to fuel their own self-serving agendas and fatten their wallets.

So yes, I actually did stop giving a shite about the debt because the OP is correct- we're too far gone. I'll take any little victory I can get, and right now, no tax on overtime would be an incredible victory that would help me to pad my stores and larder for what is coming.

I voted for Trump not because he promised to cut spending with DOGE and in other areas, because I knew that would be up to Congress and they'd frick the dog. I voted for him to lower prices of commodities, increase my net pay and deport freeloaders. And, well, at least the price of things has come down thus far and a decent chunk of illegals have been sent packing.

But I really don't know why the OP caught so many downvotes. We really are beyond the event horizon. There's no coming back from this mountain of debt, when Congress only increases not only the debt ceiling but also their spending every. single. year.

Someone, anyone, give a logical and rational explanation, with the current cast of characters controlling everything, as to how there is a way out of this mess? I mean, other than an actual insurrection.

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If they made the hard choices that are needed they would lose their election.

We have a system that punishes people for doing the right thing.

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The system relies on voters to be informed and responsible. You can't blame the system when the majority of Americans are selfish retards with the attention span of a goldfish.

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Fun fact, the federal govt had a surplus in April.

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Gee, everyone has a surplus on payday.

We should definitely worry about the debt and start writing bills that don't add to it.

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The only reason for a little optimism, because I lived through the Gingrich congress and the internet boom where the U.S. Treasury actually saw a surplus.

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That was fool's gold.

The debt is the ultimate Fugazi

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How much debt should we have?

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The amount of debt we should have is not well defined because it’s part of a well defined objective. That objective is 2% inflation.

In order to achieve 2% inflation there has to be sufficient fiscal policy (spending) such that the money supply can increase sufficiently (monetary policy) to overcome faster and natural deflation on goods and services balanced with slower inflation due to population increases.

With a 2% inflation goal this government by design shall maintain and manage debt. It’s just the math.


If the government wants to get out of debt, stop selling it. But that would probably start the collapse of the banking system under this monetary and fiscal paradigm.

Too many on here haven’t figured out yet that Democrat and Republican politicians essentially play for the same team. Even Trump essentially squashed the DOGE cuts. And the reason is that they like that power; Washington controls an empire and a world reserve currency, that is corrupting to even the least corruptible person. And there is no incentive for our leaders to be financially responsible because their terms are fixed. Therefore, the incentive is to spend as much as possible before they’re out of office, and they can kick the can down the road.

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I think it’s ok to both worry about it and acknowledge that nothing will be done about

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This actually where I am.