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re: State witness testifies about the fatal stabbing of Austin Metcalf

Posted on 6/5/26 at 11:25 pm to
Posted by Classy Doge
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 6/5/26 at 11:25 pm to
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isn’t Metcalf’s dad a BLM supporter?
I don't know but TIL on here that the "only good cracker is a dead cracker" shouter is the father of Jacob Blake. I had to Google it to learn who Jacob Blake is.

It turns out that he is paralyzed from an officer involved shooting where he was resisting arrest and reached into his car during the ensuing scuffle. The officer fired into his back paralyzing Blake but was found justified during the investigation.

Blake went on to collecting money from this event somehow and now he and his family appear to be professional "protesters" in any black supporting causes. Disgusting behavior by the Blake father multiple days in this shitshow.

ETA the tweet showing that nerdy looking white guy is there in support of Metcalf. He's a pretty brave dude for standing his ground while being surrounded by a large contingent of Anthony supporting racists that would love nothing more than turn him into a "good cracker" by becoming a "dead cracker".
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This post was edited on 6/6/26 at 1:09 am
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37847 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 12:41 am to
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Can we at least all agree that arguing and then pushing someone that has their hand in a backpack acting as if they have a weapon is a ‘hall of fame’ frick around move?


Inmate thinking like an inmate. But what’s a backpack on the inside?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144017 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 1:46 am to
Jacob Blake is the sticker Drew Brees put on his helmet to honor him for raping his ex wife in front of their children.

It’s what led to the riots in Kenosha and The Kenosha Hat Track.

Jacob Blake Sr is also from Wisconsin and drove to Frisco to engage in baboonery.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38470 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 3:32 am to
I came to say the same thing. Jacob Blake is what led to the riots that Rittenhouse was involved in, right?

Drew Brees is a cuck pussy for putting this piece of shite’s name on his helmet.
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
1154 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 5:25 am to
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If he left the tent and got a knife, it would be just as bad if he already had the knife in his backpack.
Actually, that would be worse. The former might be viewed as capital murder and the latter voluntary manslaughter. The ‘leaving and returning’ narrative might be actively pushed for this reason.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
27908 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 5:48 am to
He was obviously there to steal shite. And gripping a knife in your hand when arguing with somebody about a space you aren’t even supposed to be in? Ghetto trash

Put him away for life. It was murder, plain and simple
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
1154 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 6:25 am to
Any lawyers in this thread familiar with criminal law? Just wondering about the potential instructions a judge would give to a jury. For instance, could they convict on a lesser charge like 2nd degree instead of 1st degree murder?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55966 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 6:40 am to
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Are you always such a queer?

Typical low-brow NIH contribution.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55966 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 6:47 am to
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You saw the testimony where the teammate of Metcalf said Metcalf word for word said “I’m not going to fight you at a track meet?” And that Anthony was escalating while having his hand in the bag with a folding knife open and ready to go? How he was asked an estimated 15 times to leave and refused becoming more aggressive? How the other kids were literally sitting around, refuting any being ganged up on claim? Or the multiple accounts that the stabbing and push were simultaneous? (One witness even saying Metcalf didn’t really have the chance to push him before he’d been stabbed) There is zero way to look at any of this testimony and see this as anything but disastrous for the defense trying to claim Metcalf as the aggressor.

I agree with all of this.
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Instantaneous Premeditation: Courts recognize that the intent to kill and the decision to act can form in a matter of seconds, provided there is time for reflection before the act

This would apply to the guy on the train who murdered the Ukrainian woman (assuming he wasn’t insane). And it might apply in this case had the victim not been initiating contact.

Based on the testimony I’ve read so far, it looks like murder, but not pre-meditated - not unless there is some other evidence of pre-meditation that hasn’t been publicized yet.
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
7921 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 6:52 am to
Premeditated doesn’t have to be days or hours. When he said “touch me and find out” while having his hand on a knife, he had made the decision to kill.
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
4823 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 6:54 am to
I have not been following this closely. I read another post that said that K.A. was not competing at the track meet. Has the defense or anyone else said why he was there?
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
1154 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 6:58 am to
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Based on the testimony I’ve read so far, it looks like murder, but not pre-meditated - not unless there is some other evidence of pre-meditation that hasn’t been publicized yet.
I asked a question a couple of comments before yours along the same line of thinking. If reports about evidence and testimony presented so far are accurate, 2nd degree seems almost a shoe-in. If there is any ambiguity in/subjectivity required to get to premeditation, then the 1st degree charge might be less likely.
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
3665 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:02 am to
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Actually, that would be worse.

I would think it's worse as it shows intent and premeditation. He went to get a weapon to kill this guy., or somebody. He wasn't threaten after he left the tent. Nobody followed him and picked a fight. He went, got the knife, and came back to use it.

That's what I'd present if I was prosecution.
This post was edited on 6/6/26 at 7:04 am
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
1154 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:05 am to
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Premeditated doesn’t have to be days or hours. When he said “touch me and find out” while having his hand on a knife, he had made the decision to kill.
I believe that is going to be the biggest ‘discussion’ during deliberation and thus would be the difference between either 1st or 2nd degree. The prosecution never put a plea deal on the table, so you would think that they were highly confident in getting one or the other.
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
1154 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:07 am to
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That's what I'd present if I was prosecution
Yes, if that is what the evidence/testimony reveals, that would be MUCH more damning.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55966 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:09 am to
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When he said “touch me and find out” while having his hand on a knife, he had made the decision to kill.

What that proves is that he had made the decision to defend himself with a knife if he is attacked. You could argue that he meant “touch” literally and that he had decided to respond with a knife to being touched, but I think a reasonable juror would interpret “touch” as an aggression.
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
67123 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:12 am to
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have not been following this closely. I read another post that said that K.A. was not competing at the track meet. Has the defense or anyone else said why he was there?
He was suspended from school and couldn't attend any school functions. His suspension was for possessing a knife on school grounds.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19593 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:15 am to
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And you think this shows it was premeditated murder? You are a fool.


I do t think you’re familiar with the Texas murder statutes
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55966 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:16 am to
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I do t think you’re familiar with the Texas murder statutes

I’m not.
Posted by GruntbyAssociation
Member since Jul 2013
9825 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:21 am to
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One of the few black families in my neighborhood/shool that everyone loved because he was just a good guy in general (had professional Christmas lights too). I think he was a senior when I was in 7th grade


I had a really good black neighbor, twice, only twice.
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