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re: STARMER: UK READY TO DEPLOY TROOPS AND JETS FOR UKRAINE PEACE DEAL

Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:10 pm to
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:10 pm to
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And if it's not?

Every European military is in disarray and is not even close to being ready for the battlefield, especially if the US tells them they're on their own. They are going to get shredded.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
70006 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:11 pm to
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And if it's not?


If it's not then it's a win for us. For too long we have been propping up Europe. Them successfully kicking Russia out of Ukraine without our assistance will prove that they are finally ready to go it alone, which means we no longer have to spend money on them.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
70006 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:12 pm to
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Every European military is in disarray


This includes the Russian Federation. Our military is probably the closest to being ready for general war of any other power on earth but even we have a lot of problems within our ranks that will lead to costly defeats early on in a hypothetical global conflict.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
40770 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:14 pm to
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With whom? Poor people?


You live in Lake Charles.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35889 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:14 pm to
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Just make sure it is known that just like Vietnam Article V will not be involved since this is an EU/UK side operation.

UK troops in Ukraine would never involve Article V.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
25096 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:14 pm to
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This is their attempt to trap the USA. UK provides troops and jets. Things go sideways and Russia is cornered and attacks a NATO country. USA is obligated to defend them and they get the WW III they all want.


I think after the beatdown Trump/Vance gave during that presser its obvious where we stand. They are on their own over there.

And Ukraine will come crawling back to daddy Trump within a few months, once the Euro words turn into inactions.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35889 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:15 pm to
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If they insist on putting combat troops into conflict with Russia we must insist on not being dragged into via the NATO charter.

Sounds like you have no idea what the charter says or requires
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
9784 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:18 pm to
Does Starmer/UK have any drivable tanks or flyable war plains.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85697 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:19 pm to
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UK troops in Ukraine would never involve Article V.

So Russia drone strikes London after UK troops are in conflict within Ukraine wouldn't trigger it?
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37227 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:19 pm to
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Why didn’t Euro do this at the start, if it means so much.

Didn't have to. They knew Biden was dirty.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15541 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:20 pm to
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It's about standing up to Russi


Europe ain’t standing up to Jack shite. It’s all platitudes and virtue signaling. Europe is nothing militarily without the U.S.
Posted by laxtonto
Member since Mar 2011
2723 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:20 pm to
Best case, and this is a stretch, is that they can come up with 3 functional divisions

There is not a lot of real military power in the current diminished form of the UK military.
Posted by KingOrange
Mayfair
Member since Aug 2018
12885 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:21 pm to
UK in. USA out. Your terms are acceptable.
Posted by RazorBroncs
Possesses the largest
Member since Sep 2013
15833 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:21 pm to
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Does Starmer/UK have any drivable tanks or flyable war plains.


They have to keep at least one of each working for Top Gear testing them vs. cars. It's written in British law
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21666 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:21 pm to
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This includes the Russian Federation. Our military is probably the closest to being ready for general war of any other power on earth but even we have a lot of problems within our ranks that will lead to costly defeats early on in a hypothetical global conflict


Meh.... Russias military has been in high gear the last 3 years and can out produce America 4 to 1 producing artillery. Our current common military troops are composed of DEI freaks and most of the multi billion dollar F-35's don't work!!

Regardless, we have zero to gain allowing ourselves to be manipulated into an armed conflict with Russia.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30923 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:23 pm to
Well ain't the timing of this IRONIC?...........
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21666 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:23 pm to
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quote:
The globalist neocons in our own government and the EU are attempting to push us in a corner and force the US into an armed conflict with Russia.

It's very difficult to use the "globalist" talking point with this conflict, at this point.


Use whatever adjective suits you.... Doesn't change my point.
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
7144 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:23 pm to
The British couldn't beat us and they can't win a war without us! But hey, let's let them go at it with the little grifter and watch the shite show.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
148578 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:24 pm to
"The UK is prepared to back this with boots on the ground and planes in the air together with others."



Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
20714 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:25 pm to
That won’t escalate the conflict one bit.
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