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St. Louis grand jury indicts McCloskeys

Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:42 pm
Posted by jatilen
Member since May 2020
13608 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:42 pm
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ST. LOUIS — A St. Louis grand jury has indicted Mark and Patricia McCloskey on two counts each: exhibiting a weapon and tampering with evidence.

The couple appeared before a judge Tuesday, who continued their hearing until Oct. 14, saying the grand jury needed more time to deliberate.

The couple’s attorney, Joel Schwartz, said he was told the grand jury reached a decision to indict his clients Tuesday afternoon. Their cases have been assigned to judges Michael Stelzer and Thomas Clark.

The next step will be arraignments, where the McCloskeys will enter a plea to the charges issued against them.

The indictment means prosecutors convinced a grand jury they have enough evidence against the McCloskeys to proceed to trial.

Gov. Mike Parson has said he would pardon the McCloskeys should they be convicted.


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St. Louis Circuit Attorney Kimberly Gardner originally issued charges against them for unlawful use of a weapon – a felony.

The grand jury added the charge of tampering with evidence. Only prosecutors are allowed to present evidence to grand juries, and they are secret proceedings.

Gardner’s office has not yet responded to a request for comment, so it’s unclear what is at the center of that charge.


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5 On Your Side reported about the tension between the lead detective on the case, Sgt. Curtis Burgdorf, and Hinckley over the wording of the court document known as the probable cause statement. Burgdorf sent a list of multiple concerns he had with the way Hinckley wrote the document and refused to sign it until the concerns were addressed.

5 On Your Side has learned Burgdorf was not among the witnesses prosecutors called to testify before the grand jury, but some of the protesters accused of trespassing on the McCloskeys’ property during the confrontation did testify.


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This post was edited on 10/6/20 at 3:44 pm
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81219 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:43 pm to
Truly frightening times we live in. Would love to know the demographics of the grand jury that rendered this verdict
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94742 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:44 pm to
Also indicted-

Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79936 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:44 pm to
Wait, didn't the police tamper with the evidence? I'm sure discovery will show that proper chain of custody was not followed.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:44 pm to
Exhibiting a weapon on your own property is a fricking crime
?
Posted by WhitewaterDawg
Tennessee
Member since Aug 2011
7233 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:44 pm to
The New America.
Posted by swolverine
Member since Jun 2020
1966 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:45 pm to
I demand the to see the secret transcripts from the grand jury proceedings.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37572 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:45 pm to
Such bullshite. Meanwhile the trespassing charges against the protestors got dropped
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16699 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:46 pm to
As they say - you can indict a ham sandwich.

Will be interesting to see this trial. If they somehow are convicted, expect exodus of democratic areas to accelerate.

No one will live there if you can’t defend yourself from a mob.
Posted by UAinSOUTHAL
Mobile,AL
Member since Dec 2012
4826 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:47 pm to
You can't hold a weapon on your OWN property??? Where is the damn crime here????
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61189 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:48 pm to
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
9914 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:48 pm to
Obama trash doing work!
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
10894 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:49 pm to
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Where is the damn crime here????


They spoke at the RNC. I’m sure that was enough for some of the jurors.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98396 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:49 pm to
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tampering with evidence


wasn't it the DA that actually had them put one of the weapons in working order in order to charge for unlawful use of a weapon?
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48832 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:50 pm to
The governor has already said he will pardon them if it comes to it, and the state attorney is investigating.
Posted by TitleistProV1X
Member since Nov 2015
3509 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:51 pm to
Has any of the protesters been indicted for vandalism and trespassing?
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4568 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:51 pm to
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didn't the police tamper with the evidence? I'm sure discovery will show that proper chain of custody was not followed.
The pistol was not functional. It was a movie prop. Meaning they couldn't be charged for that gun. So, the crime lab fixed the gun in order to charge them. I guess they just went with tampering lol. Honk Honk.
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
14230 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:52 pm to
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Exhibiting a weapon on your own property is a fricking crime ?

2005 Missouri Revised Statutes - § 571.030. — Unlawful use of weapons--exceptions--penalties.
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571.030. 1. A person commits the crime of unlawful use of weapons if he or she knowingly: (4) Exhibits, in the presence of one or more persons, any weapon readily capable of lethal use in an angry or threatening manner; or
Posted by DevilDagNS
Member since Dec 2017
2661 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:52 pm to
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Truly frightening times we live in. Would love to know the demographics of the grand jury that rendered this verdict



This is why its important to live in a jurisdiction where the jury pool shares your values.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111494 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 3:53 pm to
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Would love to know the demographics of the grand jury that rendered this verdict


They live in St. Louis city. They’re 95% trash. If they weren’t, they wouldn’t live in the city.
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