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re: Springfield makes ‘necessary’ decision to encrypt dispatch channels

Posted on 9/27/24 at 5:00 am to
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
34702 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 5:00 am to
Definitely about transparency guys

They’re looking out for the citizens for sure

Trust us.

Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
7634 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 5:08 am to
This isn’t just Springfield…. it a trend happening nationwide
Posted by uggabugga
Member since Aug 2024
2611 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 5:57 am to
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Meaning, they don’t want people to hear when the police is called out because Spot was eaten by the Haitians
byngo.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
60930 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 6:06 am to
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Encrypting these channels is not about withholding information


When will the media and public entities realize we aren’t buying any of their gaslighting anymore?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
107830 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 6:08 am to
Sounds like a daily FOIA request for audio recordings of all 911 calls, and all dispatch logs, needs to happen.
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
7299 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 6:22 am to
100% someone has been keeping a list. Springfield was already a dump but it’s now moving into shite hole territory. Gonna be tough for beavercreek to prevent Dayton and Springfield from merging into a massive shite hole
Posted by zuluboudreaux
God’s country USA
Member since Jan 2008
881 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 6:27 am to
This is common nationwide. I can speak to southeast Louisiana.
Most law enforcement in Terrebonne / Lafourche are encrypted.
Simply because in the past, before the LWIN system, it was not uncommon for criminals to have scanners and listen to the police response.

That decreased with the LWIN system but then a small group of people that upgraded to digital scanners began to post many of the police calls on Facebook and started groups.

Encryption is basically a security tool that decreases real time monitoring of radio traffic. Decreases mass response of private citizens to real time emergencies. Prevents criminals from monitoring police response to their crimes, etc.

Info is discoverable after the fact with FOIA requests.
The biggest reason for encryption is law enforcement safety and scene security.

Transparency still exists though not real time.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
20857 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 6:30 am to
Lick those little boots buddy
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
54458 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 7:46 am to
Is the mayor still raking in the federal dollars with his houses being rented to the illegals?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79128 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 7:53 am to
Look, crime is down.


We’ve had zero calls.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
20457 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 8:07 am to
A lot of cities are doing this. Our city (Lewisville TX) recently did,

And we're not inundated by pet-eating Haitians (our largest minority group is Burmese refugees seeking religious freedom).
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43783 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 8:37 am to
right. the edict has been handed down from on high that local law enforcement are not to investigate these voluminous reports of pets missing/being eaten. this way, they get to maintain the "muh no credible evidence" narrative. Think about that statement.... it doesnt say "no evidence". It adds the "credible" qualifier, which allows them to ignore reports and real evidence, and not formally investigate anything until the narrative dies off nationally.

its so unbelievably obvious.
This post was edited on 9/27/24 at 8:43 am
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
17660 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 9:49 am to
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Aren't police communications public record?

Yes. All the encryption does is prevent the public from getting the information in real time.
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
4585 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 10:03 am to
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Aren't police communications public record?


Yes, but bureaucracy is a beautiful thing ...if your goal is to delay, frustrate, withhold
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
21710 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 10:33 am to
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All the encryption does is prevent the public from getting the information in real time.


Yes, just make your request. Wait a year and then get a redacted version of the call.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
17660 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:00 am to
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Yes, just make your request. Wait a year and then get a redacted version of the call.

The availability of sensitive information in real time puts officers and the public at risk. If states want to clean up their open records processes or have agencies broadcast radio traffic on a delay, I'm fine with that.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
17660 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:55 am to
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Pretty sure that is illegal.

Wrong. Most departments encrypt their communications.
Posted by td1
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
3072 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 12:20 pm to
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Asking a serious question, can these encrypted channels be "hacked" or decrypted by people who have the necessary tools/programs?


No
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