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Spinoff from the "list of conservatives" thread yesterday; Principles of Conservativism
Posted on 9/27/22 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 9/27/22 at 12:38 pm
A little long but while I (and others) are waiting on Ian to hit, for your reading pleasure.
IMO most conservatives today probably view the 10 listed by the Heritage as the standard.
MikeJohnson
The first pillar of conservatism is liberty
The second pillar of conservative philosophy is tradition and order
The third pillar is the rule of law
The fourth pillar is belief in God
InterCollegiateStudiesInstitute
First, the conservative believes that there exists an enduring moral order. That order is made for man, and man is made for it: human nature is a constant, and moral truths are permanent.
Second, the conservative adheres to custom, convention, and continuity
Third, conservatives believe in what may be called the principle of prescription
Fourth, conservatives are guided by their principle of prudence
Fifth, conservatives pay attention to the principle of variety
Sixth, conservatives are chastened by their principle of imperfectability
Seventh, conservatives are persuaded that freedom and property are closely linked
Eighth, conservatives uphold voluntary community, quite as they oppose involuntary collectivism
Ninth, the conservative perceives the need for prudent restraints upon power and upon human passions
Tenth, the thinking conservative understands that permanence and change must be recognized and reconciled in a vigorous society
Russell Kirk gets a little deep here
KirkCenter
Heritage
Thoughts
IMO most conservatives today probably view the 10 listed by the Heritage as the standard.
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7 Core Principles of Conservatism
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1. Individual Freedom
2. Limited Government
3. The Rule of Law
4. Peace through Strength
5. Fiscal Responsibility
6. Free Markets
7. Human Dignity
MikeJohnson
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THE PILLARS OF MODERN AMERICAN CONSERVATISM
The first pillar of conservatism is liberty
The second pillar of conservative philosophy is tradition and order
The third pillar is the rule of law
The fourth pillar is belief in God
InterCollegiateStudiesInstitute
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Ten Conservative Principles
First, the conservative believes that there exists an enduring moral order. That order is made for man, and man is made for it: human nature is a constant, and moral truths are permanent.
Second, the conservative adheres to custom, convention, and continuity
Third, conservatives believe in what may be called the principle of prescription
Fourth, conservatives are guided by their principle of prudence
Fifth, conservatives pay attention to the principle of variety
Sixth, conservatives are chastened by their principle of imperfectability
Seventh, conservatives are persuaded that freedom and property are closely linked
Eighth, conservatives uphold voluntary community, quite as they oppose involuntary collectivism
Ninth, the conservative perceives the need for prudent restraints upon power and upon human passions
Tenth, the thinking conservative understands that permanence and change must be recognized and reconciled in a vigorous society
Russell Kirk gets a little deep here
KirkCenter
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Defining the Principles of Conservatism
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Some of these major principles include:
*The federal government is instituted to protect the rights bestowed on individuals under natural law. It exists to preserve life, liberty and property — a mission that includes not only protecting the sanctity of life but defending freedom of speech, religion, the press and assembly, and the right of individuals to be treated equally and justly under the law, and to enjoy the fruits of their labor.
*The federal government’s powers should be limited to only those named in the U.S. Constitution and exercised solely to protect the rights of its citizens.
*Government functions best when it is closest and most accountable to the people and where power is shared between the federal government and the states.
*Individuals and families make the best decisions for themselves and their children about health, education, jobs and welfare.
*America’s economy and the prosperity of individual citizens are best served by a system built on free enterprise, economic freedom, private property rights and the rule of law. This system is best sustained by policies that promote general economic freedom and eliminate governmental preferences for special interests, including free trade, deregulation, and opposing government interventions in the economy that distort free markets and impair innovation.
*Tax policies should raise the minimum revenue necessary to fund only constitutionally appropriate functions of government.
*Regulations should be limited to those that produce a net benefit to the American people as a whole, weighing both financial and liberty costs.
*Judges should interpret and apply our laws and the Constitution based on their original meaning, not upon judges’ own personal and political predispositions.
*America must be a welcoming nation — one that promotes patriotic assimilation and is governed by laws that are fair, humane and enforced to protect its citizens.
*America is strongest when our policies protect our national interests, preserve our alliances of free peoples, vigorously counter threats to our security and interests, and advance prosperity through economic freedom at home and abroad.
Heritage
Thoughts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 12:55 pm to Wtodd
Yes.
This post was edited on 9/27/22 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 9/27/22 at 1:51 pm to Wtodd
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The fourth pillar is belief in God
Practicing Christian here, and I don't want to live in a theocracy.
You can get the same principles in government by following the other principles.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 2:24 pm to Socrates Johnson
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You can get the same principles in government by following the other principles.
Without God, there is no moral truth. Without moral truth, the leftists are right.
You cannot stake your principals on shifting sands.
The problem is there is only one God, and billions of people who think that they are it.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 2:28 pm to Dawgwithnoname
You can have moral truth without God. It’s just a tougher sell.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 2:34 pm to Wtodd
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The first pillar of conservatism is liberty
The second pillar of conservative philosophy is tradition and order
These are both important, but I hope everyone can see the tension between them.
What if tradition and order call for less liberty?
Posted on 9/27/22 at 3:08 pm to Socrates Johnson
Eh
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 7:45 am
Posted on 9/27/22 at 3:10 pm to Wtodd
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1. Individual Freedom
2. Limited Government
3. The Rule of Law
4. Peace through Strength
5. Fiscal Responsibility
6. Free Markets
7. Human Dignity
So, human dignity is literally the least important thing to you.
Fascist.
/s
Posted on 9/27/22 at 3:14 pm to Wtodd
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The second pillar of conservative philosophy is tradition and order
I disagree with this. The tradition and order of North Korea would mean that anyone who wants totalitarian dictatorship and no individual rights at all to remain is a 'conservative.'
Posted on 9/27/22 at 4:08 pm to Socrates Johnson
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Practicing Christian here, and I don't want to live in a theocracy.
Practicing Christian here, too. But I can read.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 4:09 pm to BigJim
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What if tradition and order call for less liberty?
Liberty can always trend towards less tradition and order. That’s how you end up with “trans rights” and “gay marriage.”
There should be a tension there.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 4:11 pm to Wtodd
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Human Dignity
Everything meaningful within this is covered already by “Individual Freedom”, otherwise it’s a great list.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 4:13 pm to Zach
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I disagree with this. The tradition and order of North Korea would mean that anyone who wants totalitarian dictatorship and no individual rights at all to remain is a 'conservative.'
Since the extreme example of North Korea is exactly what the author was intending to invoke, you’re directly on point.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 4:14 pm to Wtodd
You forgot the Right to Life. Without which all other rights are meaningless
Posted on 9/27/22 at 4:47 pm to the808bass
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Liberty can always trend towards less tradition and order. That’s how you end up with “trans rights” and “gay marriage.”
The problem here is these are “rights” based off being in a group. What we want is individual rights. So a gay man has the same rights as me simply by living. Not because he’s gay.
This post was edited on 9/27/22 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 9/27/22 at 5:06 pm to dgnx6
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So a gay man has the same rights as me simply by living. Not because he’s gay.
You rightwing bigoted SOB.....say ^^^^^^ to a leftist and you'll get cancelled
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