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re: Special Ed...shocking statistic
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:36 am to trixie
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:36 am to trixie
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I do not know if this is true everywhere.
It isn’t.
Additionally, the number being address in the OP is likely “students with disabilities” (504 and IDEA). They accounted for 17% of public school students as of 2020-21
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:37 am to Green Chili Tiger
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Parents don't get checks for having students in special ed. If
No, they get disability checks for those kids and the Spec Ed classes are just an ancillary result. But hey, nice meaningless gotcha. Disability checks don't actually come from the school.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:40 am to shinerfan
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If your family has low income and your child has been diagnosed with ADHD or ADD, you might want to apply for disability benefits through the Supplemental Security Income (SSI) program. If your child is approved, you'll receive a monthly check to help care for your child and pay living expenses.
LINK
Average lawyer grift.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:40 am to the808bass
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And this means nothing in the overall tabulation of SPED students.
Gifted students make up roughly 6% of all public school students. That's 40% of the the 15% cited in the op.
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Thanks and drive through.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:41 am to Zach
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This post was edited on 6/27/24 at 11:42 am
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:42 am to the808bass
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504
Does not receive SSI iirc.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:44 am to Green Chili Tiger
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Gifted students make up roughly 6% of all public school students. That's 40% of the the 15% cited in the op.
do you think Louisiana’s classification of gifted students is normative in the United States?
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:45 am to jimmy the leg
Yeah. That’s why there’s more Whities in 504 as a %. Etc.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:46 am to Green Chili Tiger
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Gifted students make up roughly 6% of all public school students. That's 40% of the the 15% cited in the op.
That is irrelevant to the post of the OP, as those students aren’t dealing with a revolving door of educators.
As noted previously, it is the “other” Sped students (the ones that you seem to want to ignore) that are being “taught” by unqualified personnel.
You know why that is the case, you simply refuse to acknowledge it.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:47 am to Zach
quote:Violent students.
They never explained the explosion. Anyone know?
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:50 am to the808bass
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Yeah. That’s why there’s more Whities in 504 as a %. Etc.
I can’t speak to that. My understanding is that in order to have an IEP, and this under the SPED umbrella, you have to either be “gifted”, or have some documented academic processing issues.
504 seemed geared towards students that needed assistance, but not to the degree of SPED modifications.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:53 am to Zach
We are doing a better job of diagnosing children with disabilities at a much younger age.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:54 am to Zach
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When I was in HS it was about 1%.
Eh, about 15% of the population has an iq below 85. Pretty sure that's a cut off for draftable citizens. If Uncle Sam says no thanks to someone in a draftable scenario, they either know someone or know nothing and require so much oversight that they're a net negative.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:54 am to Green Chili Tiger
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Gifted kids in states that classify them as special ed absolutely attend separate classes (at least 1 a day) than the general student body. Teaching gifted kids also requires a special certification in those states that the vast majority of teachers do not have.
I know gifted have separate classes. I was in GT from 8th thru 12th and almost all of my classes were separate from the general student body. None of my gifted teachers had special ed certificates. They were simply the smartest teachers in their dept by choice of principal.
There were never any meetings or forms involving me or my parents. Oh, I did have one meeting with my counselor as a 9th grader. It lasted 2 minutes:
Him: 'Zach, do you know what to take as electives in four years?'
Me: 'Yes sir.'
Him: 'Great. See you in four years at graduation.'
Of course I'm sure things have changed since the olden days.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:56 am to BuckI
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We are doing a better job of diagnosing children with disabilities at a much younger age.
We are misdiagnosing/overdiagnosing children and giving them an excuse because people shite out kids and are terrible parents. It’s insane how many kids at a young age are on meds which leads to much worse problems. Schools also cut back on physical education and recess.
This post was edited on 6/27/24 at 11:57 am
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:57 am to Zach
Increased federal for SPED students.
My wife retired from teaching special ed this year and I can say first hand that this job is not worth doing. Between dealing administrators, parents, and the kids themselves, this job is pure agony.
My wife retired from teaching special ed this year and I can say first hand that this job is not worth doing. Between dealing administrators, parents, and the kids themselves, this job is pure agony.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:59 am to Azkiger
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Eh, about 15% of the population has an iq below 85.
Below 85 doesn't = special ed. The average black in the US is at 85. Half of all black students are not in special ed.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 12:00 pm to the808bass
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do you think Louisiana’s classification of gifted students is normative in the United States?
Why wouldn't it be?
Posted on 6/27/24 at 12:04 pm to jimmy the leg
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That is irrelevant to the post of the OP, as those students aren’t dealing with a revolving door of educators.
They absolutely are. I don't think either one of my kids had the same gifted teacher or counselor 2 years in row from the time they were classified as gifted in Elementary, all the way through High School.
Gifted teachers have an insanely high turnover rate.
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