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re: Special Ed...shocking statistic
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:12 am to Zach
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:12 am to Zach
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Yeah, but this article was about teacher shortage. Gifted kids aren't in those classes. The GT kids have LOTS of teachers begging for those jobs.
Gifted kids in states that classify them as special ed absolutely attend separate classes (at least 1 a day) than the general student body. Teaching gifted kids also requires a special certification in those states that the vast majority of teachers do not have.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:12 am to LRB1967
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I am a special education teacher.
Then maybe you can answer this issue. The teaching subject with the highest turnover rate is special ed. The average tenure is 5 years and then they quit. Why?
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:15 am to momentoftruth87
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They get money for kids on learning plans.
The great fallacy of Bill Clinton was reducing welfare recipients when all they did was move them to SSI payments.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:18 am to Green Chili Tiger
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Gifted kids in states that classify them as special ed absolutely attend separate classes (at least 1 a day) than the general student body.
And this means nothing in the overall tabulation of SPED students. Thanks and drive through.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:21 am to Zach
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The teaching subject with the highest turnover rate is special ed. The average tenure is 5 years and then they quit. Why?
Is this a serious question?
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:22 am to Green Chili Tiger
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Teaching gifted kids also requires a special certification in those states that the vast majority of teachers do not have.
They don’t really have a “need” for gifted teachers in my experience. Granted, I’m retired, and things do change, but in terms of the SPED population, it is a very small percentage (perhaps 1 in 10).
It is the teachers not in gifted classes where the turnover is greatest, and really noticeable.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:23 am to Zach
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The average tenure is 5 years and then they quit. Why?
I’ll take a stab at it.
The radical increase in students classified as special ed is being driven by kids, with behavioral issues being classified as special education.
Who would not burn out?
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:24 am to Zach
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The average tenure is 5 years and then they quit. Why?

Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:24 am to Zach
I can absolutely answer your question. The job is difficult and demanding. There has been an increase in the number of special education teachers assaulted at work, parents make unreasonable demands, and there is very little support from the administration. After 5 years in public schools, I started teaching in a mental health facility. I still do the same work but have more academic freedom and more support.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:25 am to Zach
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They never explained the explosion. Anyone know?
When welfare was cut in the 90s, the underclass shifted to SSI/disability.
Ultimately they discovered they could get checks for children via disability ("crazy checks"), so this practice exploded. IEPs and disabilities go hand in hand.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:26 am to the808bass
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The radical increase in students classified as special ed is being driven by kids, with behavioral issues being classified as special education.
Who would not burn out?
Additionally, a kid with an IEP can do almost fricking anything without fear of repercussion (and they know it).
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:26 am to LRB1967
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There has been an increase in the number of special education teachers assaulted at work
If teachers unions had any value, they would work for promoting a safe work environment for teachers.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:27 am to Zach
In Louisiana gifted and talented children are also considered special education children. I do not know if this is true everywhere. Two of my grandsons are in gifted classes and are classified as special education. 1 has a diagnosis of very high functioning autism and 1 is just smart.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:28 am to SlowFlowPro
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426029 posts
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so this practice exploded
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disabilities go hand in hand.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:29 am to Zach
The definition has been expanded. If a kid has an IEP and that IEP suggests that the kid have little extra time, etc That's being pigeonholed with Special Ed.
I have issues about SpecEd and the way that it is administered and the overall reality is that the system essentially warehouses these kids once determined to have special needs
I have issues about SpecEd and the way that it is administered and the overall reality is that the system essentially warehouses these kids once determined to have special needs
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:29 am to BozemanTiger
I was technically in "Special Ed" and had an IEP 
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:31 am to SlowFlowPro
Yeah.
My son, too.
You do neither of you, generally, a greater service.
My son, too.
You do neither of you, generally, a greater service.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:31 am to jimmy the leg
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Three things…
1. Autism
2. Social security (SPED = $$$)
3. Federal funding (Debt of Ed)
quote:needs to be weaponized more... it is a growth industry if we do.
1. Autism
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:32 am to KiwiHead
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I have issues about SpecEd and the way that it is administered and the overall reality is that the system essentially warehouses these kids once determined to have special needs
It's one of the biggest issues with the underclass and it exposes a lot of the bullshite in Leftist rhetoric, especially their reliance on tabula rasa
They truly think they should sacrifice the future of 1000 innocent children if they can "save" one of these kids. It's insane and a major driver of the cycle of poverty they claim to be fighting.
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