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re: Son, age 10, on scheduled agenda to eventually be chemically casterated

Posted on 1/4/23 at 11:23 am to
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 11:23 am to
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Google says the cost is $35.00 per hour.


Get ready to edit your post....

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 11:26 am to
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Are you Karla?


That makes a lot of sense.

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Is there anyone else out there who obsessively posts over and over attacking while foaming at the mouth? You look ridiculous chasing him around biting at his ankles which is another Karla trait.


Hear, hear.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299291 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 11:28 am to
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to me its the parents making the decision for the child before the child is really old enough to make a decision for themselves.


Yep.

Way too many women see their kids as accessories or living dolls. Using children to impress other adults is shitty.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 11:29 am to
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Way too many women see their kids as accessories or living dolls.


This times one million.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38031 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 11:30 am to
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Way too many women see their kids as accessories or living dolls. Using children to impress other adults is shitty.


98% of these cases, the father is not even in the picture and when they are....they are the picture of beta male. never see this shite with strong father figures
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 11:30 am to
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Using children to impress other adults is shitty.


This times ten million!
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
9744 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 11:30 am to
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being irreligious makes someone devoid of morality


I don’t disagree. However I believe humanity is fallen, something you likely disagree with, one of the reasons I believe so is the evil/corruption/killings etc that people do to one another. You don’t necessarily need to know the story of the fall of Adam and Eve to see that something is foul in humanity. To your point, we are born with a conscious that gives us a instinctual sense of morality, my belief is that it’s a gift from God, perhaps you believe it evolved out of bug intestines, no matter. But then we always go back to whose morality sets the standard, because we both know that there is a diverse view on what is moral and what isn’t. The point in the OP that I was trying to make is that taking God out of the equation puts humanity on its arse to the lowest common denominator, and although certain evils aren’t applauded by the irreligious, if people aren’t ruled by God then they are ruled by man, and in this case a woman doctor that wants to casterate her son
Posted by SmellslikeKevinBacon
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2012
6210 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 11:31 am to
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visits once a month, in which California fees cost approximately $3200 per visit.


WTF is this all about?
Posted by Pechon
unperson
Member since Oct 2011
7748 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 11:33 am to
In these cases I always question "where's the dad?"

It always seems like it's mom doing this to show how awesome and progressive she is on social media. They don't care about the kid, it's about their selfish self-image on how they project themselves to others. It's sick.

Honestly, there are men need to setup up and start being a dad rather than just be a sperm donor. That would put a stop to a lot of this bullshite.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 11:35 am to
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In these cases I always question "where's the dad?"


In this case the Dad is moving heaven and Earth to save his son from Psychos, butchers and groomers.

Any means necessary!
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
37988 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 11:35 am to
This thread was a bat signal for our resident progs to pop in and attack the dad.

Tells you all you need to know about our resident progs. Names I've barely seen at all on tPT lately, suddenly making an appearance in this thread, of all threads.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 11:36 am to
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suddenly making an appearance in this thread, of all threads.


Then acting butt-hurt when getting the responses they are fishing for....
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 11:37 am to
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Seems pretty crazy to allow kids to undergo treatment that we know so little about

So if some random study says all is reversible, you won't have a problem with minors going thru with it? Is there anything we know that goes back to the same way after it's been altered even a little bit? Seems pretty common sense that "knowing the long term effects" of all this isn't really a factor of consideration.

With that said, I would contend we know plenty of the long term effects. Glenn Beck interviewed a girl detransitioning, and she will never have her natural breast back to breast feed her children IF she is ever able to have children. There is no going back to zero after any of this.

The reason this all being pushed right now is it is a forever revenue stream for Drs and investors like the Warren Buffett types. That is all known effects wise, so yes we have plenty of info on long term effects.

Conservatives need to stop being wishy-washy giving evil a foot in the door and stick to common sense.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 11:39 am to
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However I believe humanity is fallen, something you likely disagree with


I wouldn't be so sure. We'd probably disagree on the nuances of what "fallen" means, but I've long been vocal about the stupidity and malice of humanity. I don't like a lot of what I'm seeing in this country, but that doesn't mean I think Christianity is the solution.

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if people aren’t ruled by God then they are ruled by man


People are ruled by man either way. Some believe that subgroups have had special insight into their god's demands, but that's just an unsubstantiated belief. It's wholly meaningless to people who do not believe what you or others believe.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 11:45 am to
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visits once a month, in which California fees cost approximately $3200 per visit.
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WTF is this all about?

Hyperbole, basically.

In Texas (and assume in most states), if a parent is so bad that (s)he is allowed only supervised visitation, the court will either appoint a friend/relative to supervise (if one is available and agreeable to both parents) or a non-party to do the supervision.

A little cottage industry has arisen in which people are paid to fill that role. It is not tough work, so there are lots of choices and it is not ridiculously-expensive.

Can you FIND someone in Los Angeles charging $3200 and FIND someone dumb enough to pay it? Maybe. Probably movie stars and such. Normal people? Nah
Posted by Pechon
unperson
Member since Oct 2011
7748 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 11:47 am to
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In this case the Dad is moving heaven and Earth to save his son from Psychos, butchers and groomers.

Any means necessary!


That's the thing. The current family court system heavily favors the mother by a large margin. Part of it is groups that represent family law attorneys that keep this system in place which lines their pockets.

The other part is shitty dads who avoid responsibility. Plenty of guys out there think they have no chance and don't fight thinking just paying child support is good enough. They leave it on mom regardless if she's a psycho, groomer, drunk, druggie, whatever. So the court already has a bad opinion of dad as soon as they step in the courtroom.

So when a dad who actually cares about the wellbeing of their kids, it's an expensive Sisyphean battle. The family court system is nothing more than a means to redistribute wealth. Hell one guy I spoke to going through a divorce was paying both his and his ex wife's legal fees. It makes no sense, they want to squeeze blood from a stone and if you can't pay, jail time for you buddy.

This whole thing is meant to tear apart the family unit making kids vulnerable. Reform the family courts.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 11:49 am to
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Hyperbole, basically.


In other words, he's using hyperbole to fight HER sides' hyperbole.

Sounds fair.

Why are you so insistent on framing HIM as the bad guy in this?

The Psycho Mom, Lawyers and Judges involved in this are much worse, yet you are fixated on him.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 11:50 am to
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The other part is shitty dads who avoid responsibility.


This Dad is trying to save his son from a bunch of little Mengeles'...that's enough in my book to make him the least worst of the bunch.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15711 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 11:55 am to
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The mom agreed to a court order for zero puberty blockers, etc.


California is a transgender sanctuary state. How is the father going to be able to enforce a court order from Texas in California when the state is a sanctuary state for transgenderism?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 12:09 pm to
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The current family court system heavily favors the mother by a large margin.
The problem with this sort of assertion is failure to control your variables.

Most men do not want to hear this, but in the absence of a true "bad actor" most custody decisions are a matter of trying to maintain the "status quo" for the child to the extent possible, on the understanding that some sort of continuity is best for the child.

USUALLY, it is mom who stayed home with the baby for six months. USUALLY, it is mom who changes most of the diapers and gets baby ready for bed. USUALLY, it is mom who has spend the most time with the baby. In those cases, and absent a truly "bad actor," the court is usually willing to err on the side of continuity for the child.

In the rare cases where BOTH parents stayed home, where BOTH parents are sharing the chores, etcetera, the disparity in who is named PMC is statistically insignificant. Likewise, in the VERY rare cases where it was DAD who fulfilled those roles, you find that he is VERY often the one named PMC. Those are just rare cases, so you don't hear much about them.

Yes, you have those cases where you can argue that dad is the 60% "better" parent, versus mom being "40%," and mom WILL often get PMC in those cases BECAUSE the court is trying to maintain some stasis in the child's life. When it is 80/20, that ceases to be much of a factor.
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This whole thing is meant to tear apart the family unit making kids vulnerable. Reform the family courts.
This HAS been happening for decades.

When Texas enacted its Standard Possession Order back in 1989, it was REVOLUTIONARY that there would be a presumption of joint managing conservatorship, rather than mom making all the decisions and dad just writing a check and getting "visitation." That was a HUGE step for dads.

Could more change happen ... and faster? I suppose, but (in Texas, at least) the statutes are pretty well-written and Just need tweaks here and there (this "transition" issue being a good example).

How do you get a busy judge to NOT favor "continuity" for the child in a 60/40 situation? How does (s)he have TIME to make that determination, given how busy and underfunded the courts are?

I just don't know, because taxpayers are simply NOT going to double the number of Family Courts, which is what would be needed (at least) to give each case the amount of time that it realistically SHOULD have.
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