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re: Something big on Friday 3/15

Posted on 3/15/24 at 11:01 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/15/24 at 11:01 am to
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So you don't believe in limitless MUH personal responsibility

He only posted snippets of the thread. The thought experiments were always based in cost-benefit.

It started with masks and moved onto vaccines.

That's why the presumption of the safe and effective vaccine is always left out. It makes the cost almost 0 (like masks).

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for the purpose of being contradictory

The ironing.
This post was edited on 3/15/24 at 11:02 am
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68376 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 11:04 am to
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Also, that is not happening


It is a fact vaccinated covid hospitalizations and deaths are occurring more than non vaccinated.

So who is liable now?


And you said safe and effective vaccine. No such thing. Always a risk, big or small
This post was edited on 3/15/24 at 11:05 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423392 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 11:05 am to
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And you said safe and effective vaccine. No such thing.

This conversation may be too much for you to understand
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68376 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 11:11 am to
No. You said unvaxxed are personally liable for others not getting treated.

That is utter nonsense.

Especially when the vax doesn't work, causes issues, and wasn't properly tested.

And now, the vaxxed are filling more beds than the umvaxxed.

I will ask you again, knowing what we know in March 2024- are unvaxxed responsible for others bot getting treated?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423392 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 11:14 am to
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Especially when the vax doesn't work, causes issues, and wasn't properly tested.


You're using a lot of hindsight bias and ignoring the fact that we're discussing a thought experiment that made certain assumptions.

Clearly, if you proposed a thought experiment with an unsafe, ineffective vaccine, the analysis would be different. That wasn't the discussion 3 years ago (or whenever that thread was made).
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
82237 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 11:38 am to
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Clearly, if you proposed a thought experiment with an unsafe, ineffective vaccine, the analysis would be different. That wasn't the discussion 3 years ago (or whenever that thread was made)


The assumptions (that you still appear to consider sound) were incorrect. And people like you were using your perceived moral high ground to judge down at others.

The very REASON that many on this board skipped the vaccine is because we had just been gaslit about Russian collusion and most secure election from the very same people forcing the vax on us. We saw patterns that you didn't see. I bet you still believe the experts on man made climate change, for example. I think that kind of makes you a head in the clouds blowhard, because their gameplan / pattern is now so obvious that it should be impossible not to see.

Sometimes the smartest people miss things that normal people see. A good lesson for anybody open to receiving it.
This post was edited on 3/15/24 at 11:52 am
Posted by uncommon sense
Member since Feb 2024
82 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 1:15 pm to
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Word salad word salad word salad word salad word salad word salad word salad.


I'm in to see if anything's happening today, and the only thing happening is you blabbering. Because you have a plenitude of words, doesn't mean you have anything intelligent to say, and definitely doesn't mean you're winning any aspect of the argument. It's bad. Just stop.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 1:18 pm to
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That thread was a thought experiment



Hahaha....you are such a lying piece of dog sht.....
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 1:21 pm to
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that we're discussing a thought experiment


Again, you are a gdamned liar.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33268 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 1:27 pm to
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You're using a lot of hindsight bias and ignoring the fact that we're discussing a thought experiment that made certain assumptions.

Clearly, if you proposed a thought experiment with an unsafe, ineffective vaccine, the analysis would be different. That wasn't the discussion 3 years ago (or whenever that thread was made).


But many people never assumed the vax was safe and effective bc there wasn’t enough data to prove that true before it was forced on people. For those people, it was foresight, not hindsight.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
60586 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 1:30 pm to
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But many people never assumed the vax was safe and effective bc there wasn’t enough data to prove that true before it was forced on people. For those people, it was foresight, not hindsight.


Meanwhile, folks just rolled up to the parking lot of their local Walmart, stuck their arms out of the car and took whatever was injected into them because... free donut.

Unreal.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33268 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 1:32 pm to
Hey Vox

I will never understand how people were willing to not only allow themselves to be injected with a rushed, unproven vax that had zero data on long term impacts but also allowed their children to receive that injection.

That the the height of irresponsible parenting.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7364 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 1:39 pm to
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Russian collusion and most secure election from the very same people forcing the vax on us. We saw patterns that you didn't see. I bet you still believe the experts on man made climate change, for example. I think that kind of makes you a head in the clouds blowhard, because their gameplan / pattern is now so obvious that it should be impossible not to see.


A lot of folks were hesitant to get the vaccine for pretty obvious reasons. I never considered the Russian collusion story or election integrity to be one of those reasons. How are you connecting those dots?

Other than the government authorities often dont tell the public the whole truth...which has been going on since the dawn of civilization.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111147 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 2:45 pm to
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Should one not?

Certainly, but that's not really the point here.

If people are making sensational claims, it's fair to ask for details. If their response to you asking for details is to not provide details and tell you to "do your own research" you can be certain what type of person you're working with.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111147 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 2:46 pm to
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I have friend that is into the Qanon and some of the crazier conspiracies. He claims there is word that something big is happening on 3/15.
Trump back in the Oval Office Monday morning, Kraken finally being released!!!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423392 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 2:47 pm to
Don't forget that to do that research you have to find very specific websites in the back Waters of the internet
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
60586 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 3:04 pm to
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LSUGrrrl


Miss you in our digital Galt's Gulch, btw.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21938 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 3:05 pm to
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I will never understand how people were willing to not only allow themselves to be injected with a rushed, unproven vax that had zero data on long term impacts but also allowed their children to receive that injection.



You must not have been alive in 2020, where millions of people were dying due to a respiratory virus and this vaccine was the only treatment.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140730 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 3:08 pm to
Vaccine

Treatment


Interesting
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
2403 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 3:12 pm to
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You must not have been alive in 2020, where millions of people were dying due to a respiratory virus and this vaccine was the only treatment.




There were plenty of treatments that actually work unlike the "vax". You know, the ones that the gov. forbid anyone use.
This post was edited on 3/15/24 at 3:14 pm
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