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Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:40 am to
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:40 am to
Emotional thinking masquerading as logical thinking, gotta think he's still on board with that.

What's funny is it suffers from the same shallow analysis his recent work does. Anyone using medical resources for any reason lowers the amount of resources that can brought to bear on other medical issues. Inane tautology pronounced with unearned superiority.
This post was edited on 3/15/24 at 10:42 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:47 am to
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Anyone using medical resources for any reason lowers the amount of resources that can brought to bear on other medical issues. Inane tautology pronounced with unearned superiority.


You're ignoring the acute nature of the medical issues and the presumed mediation of the medical issues at hand.

If we had a more efficient/effective version of the flu vaccine, the same argument would apply each flu season. We don't, so pandemics and hypotheticals are the only way to typically have the discussion.
Posted by ksayetiger
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Member since Jul 2007
68490 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:48 am to
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I believe people should bear personal responsibility for their choices, yes.

Don't you?


So you think if I go to the hospital with covid, and they run out of beds for somebody else and that person dies, I am responsible?
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:49 am to
What about those that chose to get vaxd and now are taking up hospital beds from purebloods with the litany of complications from their compromised immune systems?

Are they the villains now?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425744 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:49 am to
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So you think if I go to the hospital with covid, and they run out of beds for somebody else and that person dies, I am responsible?

*If there was an effective/safe vaccine that you refused to take.

Posted by therick711
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Member since Jan 2008
25348 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:50 am to
Not just that, if you could work at a hospital and choose not to, you are responsible. If you could pay for someone's medical care and choose not to, you are responsible. If you break your arm and through the course of getting that addressed someone dies, you are responsible for that.

It's quite a pronouncement.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:50 am to
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What about those that chose to get vaxd and now are taking up hospital beds from purebloods with the litany of complications from their compromised immune systems?

That doesn't apply to the discussion presuming an effective and safe vaccine.

You're mixing up a thought experiment with a policy argument.

Also, that is not happening
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:51 am to
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So you think if I go to the hospital with covid, and they run out of beds for somebody else and that person dies, I am responsible?


Watch this.......
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425744 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:52 am to
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Not just that, if you could work at a hospital and choose not to, you are responsible. If you could pay for someone's medical care and choose not to, you are responsible. If you break your arm and through the course of getting that addressed someone dies, you are responsible for that.

It's quite a pronouncement.

Again, all ignore the acute issues presented, so they have no place in the discussion. Just like the "muh obesity" stuff.

Now, at some point in the future, diabetes may cause these acute resource issues, and then, you can have the same discussion because it will be comparable.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:52 am to
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It's quite a pronouncement.


I wonder if he donates blood or plasma?
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68490 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:53 am to
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If there was an effective/safe vaccine that you refused to take.



So all the illegals spreading measels around should be held accountable?
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25348 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:53 am to
Not at all. If there is an emergent issue and doctors that could be deployed in emergency rooms choose not to be employed there, they are responsible. Should have moved jobs and geographic locations to render aid if they don't want to be murderers.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
425744 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:54 am to
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So all the illegals spreading measels around should be held accountable?

Uh, yeah. Not really part of even this digression, but where have I said otherwise?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
425744 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:56 am to
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If there is an emergent issue and doctors that could be deployed in emergency rooms choose not to be employed there, they are responsible.

This wouldn't be reasonable, clearly. The cost portion of the cost-benefit analysis would be way off.

You're trying really hard and whiffing badly.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25348 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:57 am to
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So all the illegals spreading measels around should be held accountable?


I have it on good authority he routinely takes antibiotics when he has a virus. Antibiotic resistant pathogens and the resulting deaths are squarely his responsibility.
Posted by Grigio
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:58 am to
This post was edited on 4/5/24 at 2:23 pm
Posted by MercyTriumphs
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:58 am to
Wounds my heart with a monotonous langour
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
425744 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:58 am to
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I have it on good authority he routinely takes antibiotics when he has a virus.



I actually actively avoid antibiotics unless absolutely necessary, for that exact reason
This post was edited on 3/15/24 at 10:59 am
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25348 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:59 am to
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This wouldn't be reasonable, clearly. The cost portion of the cost-benefit analysis would be way off.


So you don't believe in limitless MUH personal responsibility and were engaging in disingenuous discourse for the purpose of being contradictory. That's precisely what I wanted to demonstrate. QED.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
3065 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 11:00 am to
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I believe people should bear personal responsibility for their choices, yes.



So Fauci should be in prison. I agree.
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