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Someone smarter than me want to explain the 15% ethanol issue?
Posted on 4/12/22 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 4/12/22 at 3:40 pm
My understanding is that fertilizer is up big time. Farmers are planting more soybeans and less corn because they put nitrogen back into the soil and need less fertilizer.
So we are already facing a summer where there will be less corn. And we are going to allow more corn to be used for gasoline at the same time?
Seems like we will have massive food shortages in six months.
So we are already facing a summer where there will be less corn. And we are going to allow more corn to be used for gasoline at the same time?
Seems like we will have massive food shortages in six months.
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Posted on 4/12/22 at 3:42 pm to anc
No need for an explanation.
Do democrat "fixes" ever fix anything? Do they ever not make the situation worse?
Do democrat "fixes" ever fix anything? Do they ever not make the situation worse?
Posted on 4/12/22 at 3:43 pm to anc
It's the dimocratic way, not seeing what the impact of a decision will do.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 3:44 pm to anc
The ethanol mandate & subsidy program may be the single worst government program we have. And that's no mean feat.
This post was edited on 4/13/22 at 9:36 am
Posted on 4/12/22 at 3:44 pm to anc
There are 150,000 gas stations across the US.
Of those, there are 2,300 that can deliver 15% ethanol gas.
Of those, there are 2,300 that can deliver 15% ethanol gas.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 3:47 pm to anc
Only very few types of corn is edible. What is grown for ethanol is not edible corn.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 3:47 pm to anc
Damn, I have a whole case of canned corn out in the old smokehouse at my aunt's house that I got from the food bank about 3 years ago. Interesting.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 3:48 pm to anc
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So we are already facing a summer where there will be less corn. And we are going to allow more corn to be used for gasoline at the same time?
Seems like we will have massive food shortages in six months.
More corn going toward gas and less toward high fructose corn syrup is a good thing. Just remember to stock up on StaBil for your small engines.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 3:49 pm to anc
Ethanol via corn = congressional office hallways packed shoulder to shoulder with greedy lobbyist $$.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 3:50 pm to BaldEagleHey
Even if they all could, we'd need another 15-20 million additional acres of corn yield annually to add another 5% ethanol to the fuel we are already using. There's only around 90 million acres in US corn today. OR, we could stop exporting corn entirely. LOL
they arent interested in fixing the problem. they just want you to think they are fixing the problem.
they arent interested in fixing the problem. they just want you to think they are fixing the problem.
This post was edited on 4/12/22 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 4/12/22 at 3:51 pm to anc
Fertilizer is insanely expensive now.
Corn requires tons of water, which requires irrigation. Diesel is what, $5/gallon?
Corn prices are high.
Ethanol destroys engines, particularly loves fuel lines and whatnot on small engines.
Corn requires tons of water, which requires irrigation. Diesel is what, $5/gallon?
Corn prices are high.
Ethanol destroys engines, particularly loves fuel lines and whatnot on small engines.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 3:51 pm to anc
Corn requires fertilizer to grow economically sufficient yields. A huge amount of corn is used to make ethanol. Federal regs mean that the ethanol corn will be prioritized over the food corn. So, less fertilizer means less food corn. Since food corn is in literally every food (thanks HFCS!!!), the price of all food goes up.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 3:51 pm to back9Tiger
Corn is in more than 4,000 grocery store items a few examples include: shampoo, toothpaste, chewing gum, marshmallows, crayons and paper.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 3:51 pm to CedarChest
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I have a whole case of canned corn out in the old smokehouse at my aunt's house that I got from the food bank about 3 years ago.
Put it in your gas tank - profit.
We aren’t talking the corn in your boil, but it is edible - especially for livestock. Coupled with the aforementioned corn/soy crop rotation, it means beef prices will rise due to feed prices increasing more than you will save from having extra corn in your gas.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 3:54 pm to anc
Dude, if you're out of food you throw out all the leftovers.
If your out of gas you punch a hole in your tank.
They intend to destroy America, why do you expect them to do something good?
If your out of gas you punch a hole in your tank.
They intend to destroy America, why do you expect them to do something good?
Posted on 4/12/22 at 3:55 pm to Pvt Hudson
This explains why corn is in poop when no corn was eaten!
Posted on 4/12/22 at 4:09 pm to concrete_tiger
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This explains why corn is in poop when no corn was eaten!
Posted on 4/12/22 at 4:18 pm to anc
It’s a terrible idea, you’re trading food production for fuel, except ethanol has much lower energy density than gasoline, and you lose energy in producing ethanol.
*Sugar cane ethanol does make sense though.
*Sugar cane ethanol does make sense though.
This post was edited on 4/12/22 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 4/12/22 at 4:22 pm to back9Tiger
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Only very few types of corn is edible. What is grown for ethanol is not edible corn.
Shortsighted.
Non edible corn takes up acreage that could be used for edible corn.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 4:23 pm to back9Tiger
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Only very few types of corn is edible. What is grown for ethanol is not edible corn.
This is true, but when farmers are planting corn they are taking land that could possibly be planted in any other grain that is a food source.
The likelihood is that farmers do not want to grow corn for ethanol because the cost of fertilizers is so much this year, and the fact that corn is one crop that requires the most.
Which will then lead to a shortage of corn
Shortage of corn leads to higher prices
Which leads to higher gas prices.
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