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re: Some thoughts on IQ
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Every child assessed for Gifted does.
This is factually incorrect.
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:46 pm to 4cubbies
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That's only taking a very specific subset of Americans into consideration, though: Americans who anticipate applying to colleges and Americans that can afford to take the SAT. Seems like that would make the results skew higher.
Nearly 100% of U.S. public school students participate in multiple standardized achievement tests over the course of their K–12 education.
~50% take the PSAT.
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:48 pm to dukkbill
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In fact, you can request accomodations for additional time. Timing is used for a number of reasons-- practical admnistration; fairness; having students cope with time management
This is more modern. Back in the day the tests were not interested in fairness. They were interested in testing how smart you were. When I took my National Merit Test in 11th grade every section had extremely short time limits. I never answered questions so fast in my life. As I exited the room I commented to a lady in charge of the test.
Me: 'Uh, it was kinda cold in there? Is the AC on 65 degrees?'
Her: 'Yes. It's a timed test and new studies show the brain operates faster in cold temperatures.'
She was right. I had a great score and the NM scholarship offers I got were the only reason I was able to attend college.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:49 pm to NC_Tigah
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Nearly 100% of U.S. public school students participate in multiple standardized achievement tests over the course of their K–12 education.
Yes. The "state test" that public school children are subjected to is not the SAT, though. I never took the PSAT or the SAT and I took honors classes in high school. I never took the state either, because I went to private school.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:50 pm to Zach
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I had a great score and the NM scholarship offers I got were the only reason I was able to attend college.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Sure, as a person with a very high IQ
Maybe… but you have zero emotional intelligence… actually zero. That alone probably limits you a lot, especially in your personal life.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:52 pm to anc
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Prior to the 70s, there was a thought that anyone below an 85 IQ was mentally challenged. There were so many people that scored below an 85, that number was lowered to <75.
I was BLESSED with a 138 IQ. I am also based enough to where I keep it under wraps for the most part to not come off as snooty but it does help me when some dumbass tries to mandate a vaccine on me that's unproven and potentially dangerous...
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:54 pm to Gifman
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Maybe… but you have zero emotional intelligence… actually zero. That alone probably limits you a lot, especially in your personal life.
Look, I don't really care for SFP but this isn't an honest assessment.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:56 pm to BoudinChicot
quote:Perhaps, but only to a slight degree.
IQ will continue to decline as people rely more and more on computers and AI.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 3:58 pm to Crimson1st
quote:A 0.6%'er
I was BLESSED with a 138 IQ
Posted on 7/29/25 at 4:10 pm to anc
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cashiers
When we still used cash, an IQ of 80 wasn’t sufficient for a cashier.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 4:11 pm to NC_Tigah
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IQ will continue to decline as people rely more and more on computers and AI. Perhaps, but only to a slight degree.
It's not the computers and AI. IQ will decline because of birth rates. High IQ people have zero or few children. Low IQ people have lots of kids.
Proof: Right now Japan has the highest average IQ in the world at 107. They also have the lowest birth rate. They don't have a bunch of people in poverty getting welfare and having babies.
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 7/29/25 at 4:16 pm to 4cubbies
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Look, I don't really care for SFP but this isn't an honest assessment.
Nobody likes ambulance chasers
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 7/29/25 at 4:22 pm to 4cubbies
quote:???
Yes. The "state test" that public school children are subjected to is not the SAT, though. I never took the PSAT or the SAT and I took honors classes in high school. I never took the state either, because I went to private school.
Perhaps you misread my post?
"Variance around mean can be fairly accurately assessed. SAT testing is a good example. But once you start getting 1.25-1.5 standard deviations from the mean, accuracy in those assessments wane."
Achievement testing falls in the same spectrum. The caveat being, ALL of those are guesstimate IQ assessments.
Especially when addressing IQ > 1.25 SD's out, unless someone's taken a supervised Stanford-Binet, Wechsler, Cattell, or MENZA type test (which is a small % of folks claiming high IQs), they don't know what their IQ really is. In my estimation that is a very good thing.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 4:24 pm to anc
Google "The Bell Curve"....
Tells ya what we already know!
Tells ya what we already know!
Posted on 7/29/25 at 4:42 pm to texag7
There are that many of us?
Posted on 7/29/25 at 4:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
How many of them have law degrees?
Posted on 7/29/25 at 4:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
There is a major difference between thinking you know everything and actually knowing everything, wouldn’t you agree?
Posted on 7/29/25 at 4:52 pm to Rip Torn
Not if you really, really believe it
Posted on 7/29/25 at 4:54 pm to Rip Torn
Nobody likes to brag (lie) about their IQ more than low to average IQ people.
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