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re: Some thoughts on IQ
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:31 pm to RohanGonzales
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:31 pm to RohanGonzales
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How in the frick do you presume to know that for all colleges and all degrees?
Stating that all degree paths have classes with assignments shouldn't be some shocking commentary on our educational system.
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
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IQ is a measure of your ability to learn. not intelligence, per se.
What? No.
He's not really wroing, and it depends on the test given and who's doing the measurement.
In general, he's provided the perfect definition of "intelligence."
One of my favorite stories is Baudrillard (or some famous French intellectual) doing a speech and book signing somewhere, and a young guy kind of waits to be last to go up and speak to him... and he asks him "How can I become intelligent?" And Baudrillard asks him "Why do you doubt your intellgence?" and the young guy says "I listen to and read people like you and I realize that there is so much that I do not know!" And Baudrillard smiles and says "Oh, my dear boy... that feeling... THAT IS INTELLIGENCE!!! An unintelligent person has never known that feeling a day in their lives!"
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:32 pm to anc
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We have people ruling us that aren't qualified.
Universal suffrage was a bad idea.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Do you realize how much various Asian countries have "caught up" once Western values and industrialism were presented to them? We developed this culture over like 400 years. They adopted it in 40.
Thank you for further adding to my point
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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How in the frick do you presume to know that for all colleges and all degrees?
Stating that all degree paths have classes with assignments shouldn't be some shocking commentary on our educational system.
Yep.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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IQ is a measure of your ability to learn. not intelligence, per se.
What? No.
Um. Yes.
It assesses cognitive abilities and intellectual potential, i.e., your ability to learn.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:38 pm to Tigergreg
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It assesses cognitive abilities and intellectual potential, i.e., your ability to learn.
Ability to analyze.
People with lower IQs with better memory, have as much/more ability to learn.
Unless you mean learn complex concepts, but that goes back to the ability to analyze, ultimately.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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a 4-year degree?
I think this could greatly depend on the university. We know students can be moved through even when they shouldn't be.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:39 pm to anc
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:40 pm to anc
Vince Young likes those jobs available to him.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:41 pm to anc
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anc
Dollar to a dime, you have never taken a real IQ test, and have no idea what your score is, or what these numbers mean.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:46 pm to boogiewoogie1978
quote:I got one in Applied Mathematics in 2004, but wouldn't say it was hard. Also wouldn't say that I learned all that much that is useful in life. Got another degree in Infromation Technology and a Masters in Computer Network Security. I work with dozens of engineers that aren't smart enough to get in out of the rain.
So someone with a mathematics degree didn't learn anything?
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:46 pm to Lee B
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"How can I become intelligent?" And Baudrillard asks him "Why do you doubt your intellgence?" and the young guy says "I listen to and read people like you and I realize that there is so much that I do not know!" And Baudrillard smiles and says "Oh, my dear boy... that feeling... THAT IS INTELLIGENCE!!! An unintelligent person has never known that feeling a day in their lives!"
I had not heard that, but it's a great anecdote (even if apocryphal). i had heard a similar one by Mauriac
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The highest sign of intelligence is doubt.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:47 pm to anc
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Kamala Harris was estimated to have an IQ of 82
By who?
She has a law degree... she had to pass the Bar Exam. Nevermind... I know the replies...
Meanwhile you will defend Lauren Boebert, who couldn't finish high school...
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This isn't true. Even if you're talking about "art" or something, they're given assignments where they have to create certain things, in certain ways.
Pure creativity isn't going to solve that problem, without the analytical ability to understand the parameters involved and how to achieve the goal.
Spewing random creativity is not going to do anything for that student.
Understanding why other people are having dun doing the assignment isn't going to do anything for that student.
Being popular with the people who are capable of doing that assignment isn't going to do anything for that student
Dude, it is ok if you didn't know there were four other tests to test other aspects of the brain and how it works in regards to intellect. You could have just typed "Man, I didn't know that. Thanks for pointing it out". Of course that isn't what happened. Just like always, the professional arguer came out and you typed all that nonsense. Just stop dude. You and I aren't on a phone call where you have to bleed to last five minutes for billing purposes. Just take that time and read about the other testing for brain quotients.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:58 pm to UtahCajun
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Dude, it is ok if you didn't know there were four other tests to test other aspects of the brain and how it works in regards to intellect. You could have just typed "Man, I didn't know that. Thanks for pointing it out".
Then I would be lying.
Y'all are way over-selling what a 75-85 IQ is, and ignoring how extremely deficient that low of an IQ is for day to day purposes, let alone in a college setting.
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 7/29/25 at 2:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Y'all are way over-selling what a 60-80 IQ is, and ignoring how extremely deficient that low of an IQ is for day to day purposes, let alone in a college setting
Y'all? WTH is this y'all?
Average IQ of tUSA is 98 currently.
I am not in anyway part of y'all.
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 7/29/25 at 2:01 pm to anc
This is why Duke medicine just got in all kinds of trouble with the Trump administration, RFK in particular, for allowing people in the med school under DEI rules. They are dumbing down medicine with these 80 IQ persons and we're all gonna pay the price.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 2:02 pm to anc
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Kamala Harris was estimated to have an IQ of 82
Your IQ is lower than Kamala’s if you believe that.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 2:03 pm to UtahCajun
Just note I did edit it to 75-85 b/c the initial post was wrong.
Why y'all? Because this was the comment that started this digression:
Those people can have insanely high creativity, EQ, or SI and will still have problems graduating college, even in a "soft" degree path like art.
Why y'all? Because this was the comment that started this digression:
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There are a ton of people walking around with an IQ between 75 and 85 that seem normal. They have jobs, they have kids, some of them have college degrees
Those people can have insanely high creativity, EQ, or SI and will still have problems graduating college, even in a "soft" degree path like art.
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