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re: Social Security is Welfare
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:17 pm to APHA
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:17 pm to APHA
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Don't worry, they'll disband it a few years before you retire and you won't have to worry about.
Probably not, they’ll just raise the ages for taking it, and more people will die before they ever get a dime. Most people taking it today will likely not even get what they paid and what the employer paid on their behalf, not including the interest it would have earned had Congress not stolen it for other purposes for which it was not intended.
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Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:18 pm to ericberryistheman
I've assumed since I was 19 that there would be no SS payout for me when I retired, and I planned accordingly.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:19 pm to Masterag
They take your social security taxes and invest it in rock solid government treasuries. What could go wrong? It's almost like a locked box.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:19 pm to ericberryistheman
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ericberryistheman
You're an idiot. But you know this already. You just posted this to point the fact out to all of us.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:26 pm to Harvey Vortac
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Social Security is Welfare
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Social security is a pyramid scheme
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:27 pm to LemmyLives
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I've assumed since I was 19 that there would be no SS payout for me when I retired, and I planned accordingly.
Smart. Always do this especially when someone says they're going to give you something for free.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:28 pm to dickkellog
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:28 pm to ericberryistheman
And what about the current retirees that paid into SS all our working life? Should we not at least get back some of what we paid in?
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:31 pm to ericberryistheman
You and I have two radically different definitions of welfare.To me.Welfare is people sitting on their arse and getting paid having done nothing. The current recipients may have paid in less when they were working, making less, but they didn't pay in nothing
This post was edited on 12/18/25 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:36 pm to ericberryistheman
I mean technically in the sense that your dollars don't directly pay yourself, but by that definition pretty much all government disbursements would fall under "welfare", including tax credits.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:37 pm to ericberryistheman
And you will keep the gravy train rolling.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:40 pm to ericberryistheman
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There is no fund.
The hell there isn't. There's a fund, and I own a big chunk of it, and your Yankee government owes it a shitload of money. Pay up, bitch.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:41 pm to ericberryistheman
Negative storm trooper. If the recipient pay’s in more than they receive it is by definition not welfare.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:42 pm to LemmyLives
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I've assumed since I was 19 that there would be no SS payout for me when I retired, and I planned accordingly.
If you were in prison and you loaned another inmate money, and he failed to pay, would you be OK with it because you'd just assumed it was a gift? Or would you ruthlessly exploit the deadbeat until he regretted his own existence? There's a right answer there.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:43 pm to sgallo3
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Yet 75% of Americans think they have paid into a retirement fund.
they have, it has just been spent already.
Gore's "lock box" was always really a cookie jar.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:47 pm to ericberryistheman
You’re an idiot.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:47 pm to theballguy
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someone says they're going to give you something for free.
I didn't plan on my ex-wife getting 50% of my non Roth accounts though.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:48 pm to theballguy
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Always do this especially when someone says they're going to give you something for free.
Free? I have paid into it for years.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:49 pm to 14&Counting
Did I say Soc Sec was free?
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:51 pm to kayjay
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at least get back some of what we paid in
No, no, this is a fundamental misunderstanding. I want it all.
If the fed bounces up in a few years with a 25% reduction in payments, that means it’ll take 1/3 longer for them to pay me off.
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