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re: Social Security and Medicare need to be eliminated

Posted on 2/20/26 at 7:44 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 7:44 pm to
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I said exactly what I said in my reply.
Your reply was not responsive to the post. People who are being taxed to cover Medicaid are literally also paying monthly Medicare premiums. There is no comparison to welfare. None.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 8:05 pm to
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All of the choices Boomers made while they were the dominant generation were to enrich themselves in that moment, without any thought given to the future. That is true

But Boomers do think they built some kind of utopia for all other generations, it's hilarious

People have it better and worse than me or you.
No. What's hilarious is you don't see the exquisite irony of those ridiculous juxtapositions.

WTF do you imagine will happen to all that "Boomer Money"?
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I had to take a loan out for college
No. You didn't. It is an example of bitching that falls flat on experienced ears. You didn't have to take a loan out for college. You chose to. Now that is a-okay. But don't expect others who chose differently to suffer your whining well, especially as you combine bitching about previous gens you literally know nothing about, with what you view as your own unique generational challenges now.

Goodness.

This post was edited on 2/20/26 at 8:07 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60592 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 8:20 pm to
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We were fricking supporting the kids (that we love) through their early years, paid for their college fees that weren’t covered by scholarships, allowed them to move back home when the well-paying jobs weren’t there and they couldn’t afford to live on their own into their 30s
the vast majority of you did not do all of this
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60592 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 8:23 pm to
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Got a SSN at age 13, started mowing lawns and doing farm work, laid sod, worked as a carpenter building houses, worked in a meat packing plant, ran heavy equipment, worked on the railroad, went back to school at age 29 for electronic school,
what boomers don’t get his young people can’t frick around for 10 years after high school like this anymore.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 8:26 pm to
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the vast majority of you did not do all of this
You do not have a clue as to what previous gens did or did not do.
Posted by Sid E Walker
BackdoorU ©
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 8:26 pm to
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the vast majority of you did not do all of this

How do you know this? Quantify it with data.

I know what I and my wife did, and what we sacrificed, to raise our kids…and it pisses me off to be characterized as a generation of deadbeats that frittered away America’s plenty.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 8:26 pm to
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what boomers don’t get his young people can’t frick around for 10 years after high school like this anymore.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 9:12 pm to
Every journey begins with a single step. That’s what you young punks don’t want to do. Walk the walk.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38326 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 9:24 pm to
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But it won't be Boomers. It's not in their blood, they've never proven to leave a better world for those after them. Just debt and brokenness.
I literally hate these Boomer smashing threads. We have a living trust. My 3 kids will be OK when we're gone. If we were as you all describe, we would be in Las Vegas every weekend, driving $100K trucks (mine is 2012 F150) and my wife drives a 2015. Maybe we are outliers but I suspect you all just whiney shits with your hands out.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 9:25 pm to
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I am tired of these boomers saying they’re for “small government” when they are deepthroating the Medicare and social security teats.
Posted by FLTech
he/won
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 9:55 pm to
Your stupid fricking rant didn't do what you thought it was going to do on this website huh?
Posted by sparkinator
Lake Claiborne
Member since Dec 2007
5045 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:11 pm to
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I literally hate these Boomer smashing threads. We have a living trust. My 3 kids will be OK when we're gone. If we were as you all describe, we would be in Las Vegas every weekend, driving $100K trucks (mine is 2012 F150) and my wife drives a 2015. Maybe we are outliers but I suspect you all just whiney shits with your hands out.


Same here. House paid off, no notes at all. Pension, great 401K, all set up for when I retire. Rental properties that are supplementing our income. But we live in a modest house and don’t drive new vehicles. We’ve raised 5 kids.

We spend modestly and invest in our families future. My kids will be in great shape when we are gone. We enjoy the money we have budgeted for trips and hobbies, but our investments are growing and appreciating while we live off some the interest. So boomers destroying family wealth is a slap in the face to me.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20010 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:12 pm to
What do you want to do with all the people who literally get like 709 a month that are 91 years old but that’s all taken by the government and they are in a group home?

What should be done?
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38656 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:25 pm to
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Like I posted earlier, the wake of destruction that the Boomers left behind is the cultural rot that they popularized. Feminism, hedonism, post-modernism, etc.



well yes, 100% this too.

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But the timeline just doesn't work for the narrative of "The Boomers had it all."


I'm not saying they made all the bad decisions, but they were set up incredibly well and then proceeded to pillage the future for their own gain to a huge effect.

College was between $1,500-$2,500 or $10,000-$15,000 adjusted for inflation per year. Completely different startup costs for a life. I'll get to the bigger problem on this in a response below.

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There's no magic generation who "had it all" and squandered it.



The Boomers didn't squander it for themselves, no. they squandered the economic structure they benefited from for future generations and left us with an unstable mess of corporate greed, social welfare, etc.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38656 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:39 pm to
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Who are you sitting like God Almighty pronouncing judgements on generations? You decide who gets to keep their rightful payout and who is the group to get cutout. Then you blame Boomers for being selfish because they won’t accept your judgement and call them ungrateful for not being thankful and understanding for not getting their retirement.

frick off!


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Crickets!!!

And get rid of deadbeats getting disability and children’s benefits. Those kids didn’t pay in to SS. Why should they get benefits? Thats not what it was designed for. Pull that money out of welfare or some other government budget.

And foreigners shouldn’t get SS payments. This was set up for US citizens. Pull that money out of welfare too, or cut that expenditure out completely.

Your generation is in charge now, whippersnapper, so “Chop chop.” Snap to it! Y’all need to straighten this out so I can get my check! yall are in charge now, so the blame going forward lies at y’all’s feet!



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You’re full of shite. Boomers didn’t spend their working years “enriching” ourselves. We were fricking supporting the kids (that we love) through their early years, paid for their college fees that weren’t covered by scholarships, allowed them to move back home when the well-paying jobs weren’t there and they couldn’t afford to live on their own into their 30s. My youngest (of four) is wrapping up her sophomore year at college and yes, I am paying for that with two more years to go.

I have spent my so-called “boomer enrichment” on the next couple of generations, so eff off.


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I literally hate these Boomer smashing threads. We have a living trust. My 3 kids will be OK when we're gone. If we were as you all describe, we would be in Las Vegas every weekend, driving $100K trucks (mine is 2012 F150) and my wife drives a 2015. Maybe we are outliers but I suspect you all just whiney shits with your hands out.


Boomers, calm down. This isn't about you specifically. It's about you as a cultural force, and a decision making block. You've made some pretty awful decisions and don't really care about the repercussions. It's why you protect SS and don't let anyone make changes. Among other things.

Like I said, I get it. It's just - the generations before you were at least slightly more giving and noble about "leaving a better world," hence what you had. While the generations after you are just stuck with your bill.

We get it. You were the only people to work from age 14 on. You were the only ones to have jobs your whole life. the only ones who worked your way through college. the only ones who have had to struggle in a variety of ways. Etc. We all know that. we hear it every day.


The way you constantly speak down to other generations is pretty telling - again you think you've left behind a utopia. You won't even admit that SS is a problem that needs to be fixed. Or that the two parent household is a bad idea. etc. Or that college is ridiculously expensive. it's all such an amazing achievement what you have accomplished and everybody else sucks because they see it differently.

ETA: Millenials have a whole bunch of problems, we are way to liberal as a group, we often put comfort first, we are shortsighted. But just like the Boomer mindset comes from being the product of generations that had to pinch pennies, hence a whole bunch of selfishness. Millenials come from a more comfort-obsessed generation and we REALLY like it. it's created it's own share of problems, and we have a massive instant gratification problem. not a lot of patience. So I'm not saying Boomers are the only bad generation, we all have faults. But whereas Millenial problems, outside of being too liberal, are highly inward focused. boomer problems crush the economy. And they have had WAY more power to fix it, and consistently chose not to.

This post was edited on 2/20/26 at 11:50 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38656 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:11 am to
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No. You didn't. It is an example of bitching that falls flat on experienced ears. You didn't have to take a loan out for college. You chose to. Now that is a-okay. But don't expect others who chose differently to suffer your whining well, especially as you combine bitching about previous gens you literally know nothing about, with what you view as your own unique generational challenges now.

Goodness.



Ah yes, the typical "You didn't need a college degree" Boomer Myth. As with a lot of these issues, Boomers fail to see their policy problems.

You do need a college degree, and will need one for the foreseeable future.

The first issue is that by somewhere around 1998-2000, it's tough to nail the specific year, most jobs that had earnings above the national average, even if the work itself wasn't college-degree oriented, required a college degree. Corporate America was doing this, after eliminating pensions and real investments in employees, as it offloaded training and job prep to the institutions. this ruined college and it's purpose. College was never meant for everyone, but Corporate greed needed a different kind of filter that they didn't have to pay for. This was mainly Boomer driven.

Now, I'll admit that the "College is the great equalizer" belief started mostly with the GI Bill and some of Johnson's policies, but it went into overdrive with Boomers, corporate efficiency, etc.

What happened along side changes in corporate culture:

Increase borrowing capacity — Unsubsidized loans (1992) - Bill Clinton (Boomer), expanded loan limits, and the elimination of private lenders (2010) Obama - Boomer Students could now borrow incredible amounts of money, affecting access, college, price, etc. Both driven by Boomer Presidents. Student Aid and Fiscal Responsibility Act (SAFRA) — 2010 in specific was terrible for everyone. SAFRA terminated the Federal Family Education Loan (FFEL) program entirely, making all new federal student loans direct loans issued by the Department of Education. It also increased Pell Grant funding.

Mandate testing and standards — NCLB (2001), Race to the Top (2009), and Common Core (2010) created a K-12 pipeline designed to funnel as many students as possible toward college. Bush 2 (Boomer) and Obama again. Ruined K-12 education.

Shift costs to students — State disinvestment in public universities, combined with the availability of easy federal loans, allowed institutions to raise tuition aggressively. - Who was in charge of institutions while they did all of this, aggressively pursued campus expansions and administrative staff, etc. - Boomers.

Collectively, Boomers created a system that treats college as compulsory, finances it through debt, measures its pipeline through standardized tests, and leaves younger generations to absorb the consequences. The federal budget for postsecondary education grew from $3.4 billion in 1970 to over $135 billion annually by the 2020s.

Just a brutal change. So yes, you HAVE to get a degree to even get a decent job, and yes Boomers made it a lot more painful.

Posted by superwolf
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:37 am to
Public schools too. A cancer.
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
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Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:41 am to
Some folk are nuts

God is great
Beer is good
People are crazy

As long as people have faith in Christ they will be OK. Jesus forgives.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 2/21/26 at 4:09 am to
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Ah yes, the typical "You didn't need a college degree" Boomer Myth.
No nitwit.
That was not the message at all.
But your sophomoric response is typical of someone too intellectually lazy to undertake critical thinking, and who instead assumes he knows what he doesn't. Your posts in this thread are replete with examples of the latter.

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Bush 2 (Boomer) and Obama again. Ruined K-12 education.
As with any critical theorist, you've identified a problem, but lack the cognitive discipline and/or honesty to identify root cause. Education in the US is not a Federal issue.

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Increase borrowing capacity
Once again, you chose to take a loan. Life is full of choices, but ownership of them is a different matter. Some people find it easier to blame others than to take personal responsibility. Unfortunately, that leads to a pattern of mistake repetition.

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Just a brutal change. So yes, you HAVE to get a degree to even get a decent job, and yes Boomers made it a lot more painful.
The best humor is that based in fact ...

Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
4114 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 4:32 am to
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Your reply was not responsive to the post. People who are being taxed to cover Medicaid are literally also paying monthly Medicare premiums. There is no comparison to welfare. None.


And, SS is taxed as income, so there is no comparison to welfare.

Maybe we should send people on welfare, EBT, SEC 8 a W2 for those funds. That would offset the EIC and child credits they receive as refunds every year.
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