re: So what’s so damning about these Signal messages?

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Most don’t give 2 shits and the ones that do are either trolls or the knee jerks who cry when MAGA not winning all the time. Thats most of it.

No one really cares about the actual military or what was said, overall, because it is no big deal. However it was the lax OPSEC that apparently was a problem. Texting a military strike while standing in line at Ray's Hellburger is probably not a good idea.

Overblown.

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Please tell me what specific targets were in that thread?

Please tell me what specific locations where to be targeted?

Please tell me how many F-18s or Reapers the United States own and did that release identify where they were located?

Please tell me how many minutes prior to the attack this information was passed to cabinet level secretaries on AN APPROVED ENCRYPTED APPLICATION.

Make no bones this is a self goal, but they admitted it was wrong and learned from it going forward.

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This information was disseminated 2 hours before the attack. To be clear it is a violation of the law to transmit sensitive information on a non-secure platform (signal is not approved for transmitting classified information or sensitive information)If you cant understand why putting information about weapons systems in a chat two hours before an attack is dangerous then I can't help you. The target was discussed, because he was described to be at his girlfriends house. This has the potential to out an imbedded source on the ground. Lastly the Houthis have anti-aircraft guns. With 2 hours notice they could have been prepared to fire on the f18's and the drones we used during the attack (they've already shot down some of our drones.)

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I had Red Dot Clearance in Afghanistan and yes 36ID did indeed use Signal during COVID and Riot.Control operations.

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Listen to what you said, "During COVID and Riot Control". Communicating about COVID and riot control over signal and communicating attack plans 2 hours before an attack over signal are not the same.

Nothing, it is Democrats grand standing on the smallest stool. It will be a weekly thing going forward.

There's several conflicting things in all this.

However, there is one overriding principle here: when you hold a security clearance you aren't allowed mistakes in the sense that the presumption is the mistake is intentional. This is so actual espionage can't be attributed to "ooops".

However, that's just a presumption of guilt. If you can prove otherwise (I don't think Waltz can), go for it.

- Who the frick allows someone on a high level chat with just initials? That's a red flag right there. You see that on the list, you sign out. Full names and probably titles.

- No, "war plans" were not disclosed or targeting information. But, cabinet level discussions centered around go or no go are indeed classified and are very valuable to adversaries.

- many a person has died trying to "get in the head" of the US gov't, USSR, CCP, etc. Being witness to this type of discussion is indeed that. It is also an opportunity for an adversary to identify the losing side of the argument and potentially target them (as our own FBI did during Trump's first term).

They are upset because there was a group of individuals who were all part of a close team where they high fived each other and showed friendship/support and the democrats cannot comprehend the fact that there are people in government who actually work as a team that all genuinely like working together