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re: So what, exactly, is the problem with real federal spending cuts?
Posted on 5/20/25 at 2:21 pm to Figgy
Posted on 5/20/25 at 2:21 pm to Figgy
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Now in all seriousness we all know that cuts need to happen and we need to have surpluses to attack the federal debt. It needed to happen years ago and we’ve continually been let down by the feds. So yeah, I’m actually all for making cuts to get us to that point. Everyone is going to have to experience pain there’s no avoiding it. Everything should be on the table. Whether or not that is possible… the only way to find out is to try.
Glad to see you support this bill.
This post was edited on 5/20/25 at 3:17 pm
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Posted on 5/20/25 at 2:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
It’ll never happen in our current situation
They’ll keep moving the bloated corpse until it can’t be moved anymore. Is that during our lifetime? Who knows
They’ll keep moving the bloated corpse until it can’t be moved anymore. Is that during our lifetime? Who knows
Posted on 5/20/25 at 2:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
Not flaming I’m not that active on here now. Are people complaining a bill with no material cuts isn’t going to pass?
Posted on 5/20/25 at 2:32 pm to imjustafatkid
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So you don't understand the difference between things the president can do and things Congress must pass
Because it’s congress we must make massive concessions on wasteful cuts?
Posted on 5/20/25 at 2:36 pm to cascadia
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Because it’s congress we must make massive concessions on wasteful cuts?
No, we don't have to. Really just depends on how quickly we want to lose control of Congress. We could cut everything immediately and spiral the country into a recession if we want to let Dems regain control next year and reverse everything we changed.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 2:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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So what, exactly, is the problem with real federal spending cuts?
They weren't proposed by Trump and Trump said that this guy from Kentucky didn't know how government worked and people here thought that was the greatest thing ever said by a president. If there were real federal spending cuts, then none of that would have happened.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 2:41 pm to imjustafatkid
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We could cut everything immediately and spiral the country into a recession if we want to let Dems regain control next year and reverse everything we changed.
This sums it up.
Sadly
Posted on 5/20/25 at 2:43 pm to wutangfinancial
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Are people complaining a bill with no material cuts isn’t going to pass?
They are attacking pols (my friends from Kentucky) who oppose the bill because of the lack of material cuts.
MAGA now supports more spending than Biden and $1.5T+ deficits and claims they're making a difference.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 2:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
A defining characteristic of modern-day Republicans is that they go out of their way to fund entities that work against us and them.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 2:47 pm to the808bass
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This sums it up.
Sadly
Yes, it is sad, but the reality is we have to deal with the morons in the country who cannot handle abrupt change. Unfortunately, they are the voting majority. Real change cannot happen abruptly if you want that change to become the norm.
ETA: Democrats understand this, which is why our country has grown more and more towards progressive nonsense for decades now. Libertarians do not understand this, which is why they never win anything of substance.
This post was edited on 5/20/25 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 5/20/25 at 2:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
MAGA is big government populism so that shouldn’t surprise you
Posted on 5/20/25 at 2:48 pm to imjustafatkid
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Really just depends on how quickly we want to lose control of Congress. We could cut everything immediately and spiral the country into a recession if we want to let Dems regain control next year and reverse everything we changed.
While I don’t agree with this it’s at least an answer that they are probably doing.
My thoughts are what is the point of having a majority if you’re not going to actually make the massive changes you’ve been promising. I’d they weren’t career positions this wouldn’t be an issue
Posted on 5/20/25 at 2:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
To us regular folks none to the frick sticks in dc that will cut off some of their back door money
Posted on 5/20/25 at 2:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
My biggest issue is that a lot of the "cuts" they're talking about aren't reductions in spending at all but removing tax incentives to generate ore revenue.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 2:52 pm to cascadia
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While I don’t agree with this it’s at least an answer that they are probably doing.
Anyone who tells you massive spending cuts wouldn't result in short term pain is lying to you. Personally, I'm willing to deal with that pain because I agree it is truly what is needed, but the vast majority of the public is stupid and is not willing to do that and the result would be a reversal of all such changes after the midterms.
This post was edited on 5/20/25 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 5/20/25 at 2:53 pm to imjustafatkid
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Anyone who tells you massive spending cuts wouldn't result in short term pain is lying to you.
Is a 5% cut on current Federal spending a “massive” spending cut?
(It’s not.)
Posted on 5/20/25 at 2:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
where do i land exactly if:
I support DJT. Really enjoy owning Libs
BUT also want to massively slash federal spending?
I support DJT. Really enjoy owning Libs
BUT also want to massively slash federal spending?
Posted on 5/20/25 at 3:03 pm to wdhalgren
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I wish it was that simple, but it's not
If the republicans were actually fiscally responsible as they’ve claimed for 30 years it would absolutely be simple.
Painful in the short term perhaps but we could be back on a sustainable path within a few years if they were serious about supporting what they ran and won on.
Not only aren’t they, the public realizes it so it’s almost a guarantee the house will swing back to the DNC in 2026 meaning it’ll be investigations and impeachments all over again.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 3:05 pm to the808bass
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Is a 5% cut on current Federal spending a “massive” spending cut?
(It’s not.)
Wouldn't that be a reduction in spending of about $300B? Yes, that would be a substantial, immediate hit to the economy. I don't think we even have to look far into the past to see how that would look. Just look at what the relatively minor DOGE cuts did and amplify that.
The GOP would ABSOLUTELY lose Congress if they cut 5% spending immediately.
This post was edited on 5/20/25 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 5/20/25 at 3:08 pm to Klark Kent
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where do i land exactly if:
I support DJT. Really enjoy owning Libs
BUT also want to massively slash federal spending?
Which one is more important to you?
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