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re: So my daughter has received interest from an Ivy League school

Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:02 pm to
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:02 pm to
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I believe anc is posting this thread to get some ideas to discuss the topic with this daughter. She's probably grappling with the idea of going off to the northeast alone all by herself away from friend and family in a different culture.



Which is a legit concern but he shouldn't be considering how "liberal" a school is if that is where his daughter wants to go. Having difference opinions and views is not a bad thing. Being a moderate is not a bad thing. He shouldn't be so scared that his daughter may grow up and have different political views than him.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:03 pm to
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I don't subscribe to the school of thought that an Ivy education is better.


Most top med schools disagree with your sentiment. Assuming she does well at Princeton, she'd have the choice of any med school in the world, here or abroad. That's not an opportunity to pass up lightly.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:04 pm to
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I have met quite a few ivy leaguers, and for the most part they got in due to their connections not their smarts. So they weren't the smartest, but not dumb at all.

that's why you go to iveis, though, to meet those guys whose fathers/mothers/grandparents are rich and powerful
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:04 pm to
The liberal brainwashing shite is fricking stupid. At Ivy League schools, conservatives are conservative, they talk conservative, and everybody knows they are conservative. If your daughter is conservative, she will graduate as a conservative. If she does not, then you can just call her persuaded. And fricking deal with it.
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 4:06 pm
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:04 pm to
I'm not worried about the check. I haven't even talked to her about it much. I know its a big deal.

She is just showing a little interest. If she chooses Princeton, I will make it happen for her. I'm not going to keep her from that. I was really hoping there was a Princeton or Ivy grad on here that could tell me how it really is instead of what we read about and bitch and moan about on the Poli Board.

I'm confident in our upbringing of her that she would be fine.
Posted by BigAppleTiger
New York City
Member since Dec 2008
10399 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:06 pm to
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Most top med schools disagree with your sentiment. Assuming she does well at Princeton, she'd have the choice of any med school in the world, here or abroad. That's not an opportunity to pass up lightly.




Although true, this has no bearing on the situation. The OP is not considering his daughter's future, needs, and wants- he is considering his own.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67751 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:06 pm to
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Talk me out of pursuing it.


How about not.

Cheaper and Princeton>Rhodes
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:06 pm to
Nobody on here will admit to having gone to Princeton if they want to remain anonymous.
Posted by fleaux
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:06 pm to
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I'm confident in our upbringing of her that she would be fine.


That's the most important thing in this whole situation
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
39068 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:06 pm to
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Especially for a pre-med student where Organic Chemistry is the same subject regardless of institution.


The material will always be the same. The manner of instruction and examination will be different.

There's a difference between a multiple choice question on Zaitsev's rule, and a 1-page essay on Zaitsev's rule where the teacher gives no partial credit.
Posted by a want
I love everybody
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:07 pm to
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I'm confident in our upbringing of her that she would be fine.

So if she goes to Princeton and somehow comes out liberal -or perhaps more liberal than you'd like -there's something wrong? Don't you want her to form her own opinions?
Posted by AngryBeavers
Member since Jun 2012
4554 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:07 pm to
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She's going a Pre-Med route.


You can study anything and go to med school.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23229 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:07 pm to
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Let her go where she wants to. If you raised her proper she will form the right opinions regardless of what her professors teach. She is more likely to rebel against your preferred ideology if she catches on that you would deny her school choice due to politics.


I agree she should go where she wants to but their is no "right opinion". He's scared of his child getting indoctrinated by liberal professors. How is that in any way different than what he (and all parents) has done her entire life?

It goes back to the political divide in this country where both sides think the other is crazy. It's ok to have different opinions.
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10411 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:08 pm to
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The manner of instruction and examination will be different.


I understand that and I also know that the method of examination can often be more challenging at "lesser" schools.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67292 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:09 pm to
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I'm confident in our upbringing of her that she would be fine


This. If you raised her well to think for herself, approach issues critically, see through talking points, and to understand the very basics of what is wrong with Keynesian economics, she's going to be fine. If you're that concerned with her turning into some raging flaming liberal, send her off to school with some open-minded libertarian books, particularly those regarding economics. An ignorant "conservative" is just as bad as an ignorant "liberal". Neither know what they want, why they want it, or how the positions they support impact the world, but they both want to tell you that they're right and the other side is wrong and ruining this country.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31671 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:10 pm to
OP should understand that at Ivy League schools there are collee republican clubs and the like. There's something for everyone.
Posted by Turkey_Creek_Tiger
Member since Dec 2012
12343 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:12 pm to
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my daughter has received interest from an Ivy League school


Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:12 pm to
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Cornell
Cornell is the Mississippi State of the Ivy League. I work with several Cornell grads and most are B teamers.
Posted by BlackenedOut
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Member since Feb 2011
5827 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:12 pm to
So your daughter is a junior in high school, has not been accepted to Princeton, nor received bona fide scholarship offers (nor any financial aid package), and you are certain it will only cost you $7K a year to send her to Princeton?

There is a major assumption in your initial post that is incorrect.
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 4:14 pm
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18201 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:13 pm to
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OP should understand that at Ivy League schools there are collee republican clubs and the like. There's something for everyone.


I have been looking at those clubs and Christian student groups at Ivies for most of the day.

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