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re: So how do we fix the media problem?

Posted on 6/30/20 at 7:13 am to
Posted by impjr
louisiana
Member since May 2009
131 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 7:13 am to
Kill the people who are in charge and those supporting them, maybe?
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17155 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 7:34 am to
Vigilantism should cure the media problem. Take a lesson from the Cartels and start hanging media talking heads from bridges and overpasses. Don't forget to get the local station managers and developers and producers too.

Should be getting easier to accomplish with the dwindling police forces.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18308 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 7:38 am to
More statism is not the solution for statism. Ask yourself: What regulations, etc. are enabling this media cartel in the first place?

Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 7:41 am to
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So how do we fix the media problem?


Teach people to know better. Rebutt opinion pieces with facts.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44831 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 7:41 am to
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LINK

Just some quick examples of Fox News acting insane and pushing some obviously fake stories




Using HuffPo as a source is just sad. They're left of CNN.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44831 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 7:44 am to
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Were you not around when Obama was President? For fricks sake dude.


No politician in this country's history (or maybe any country's history) has ever been treated with kid gloves by the media like Obama was.
Posted by boomtown143
Merica
Member since May 2019
6699 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 7:45 am to
Russia collusion is the biggest fake news story ever pushed....it's not even close.

The MSM did NO deep investigations into it. They took their sources words (who were all Obama leftovers) and ran with it.
They let their hate of Trump win.

They are going to try this type of this again from now until the election.

The silent majority will show it's face again this November. Book it.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27559 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 7:50 am to
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There has to be an unbiased oversight committee in media


I'm convinced there is no such thing as unbiased. Politics have become so ingrained in our society and the extreme wings of both sides have polarized the ideologies so much that we are incapable of putting together a legitimately unbiased collection of individuals to regulate anything.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19307 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 7:52 am to
As of this week I will cancel my newspaper subscription. I can get a Sunday paper at the store to get my coupons.
Posted by RileyTime
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Oct 2008
6930 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 7:54 am to
Stop watching it.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18053 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:02 am to
I challenged a friend, who watched CNN, to turn off the TV and read the news for a week. It doesn't matter where you read your news, your brain will interpret it better when you read.

He came back the next week and said:

1. Holy crap, CNN is in the tank for the Dems.
2. I have a deeper understanding of the issues.

Watching has become too convenient.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5007 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:04 am to
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Fox News is the most egregious offender of fake news, and OANN is just a propaganda network for the president, so to answer your question, we’re already there.




The biggest hoax of our time was the Trump-Russia collusion narrative. Everybody in the mainstream media pushed this as fact for three years. That makes NYT, WAPO, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC the biggest propagandists of our time. None of them actually investigated the story. They were spoon fed crap from Democrat deep staters and printed it as truth. These outlets are and have been the most "egregious offenders" of fake news, not Fox, not OANN.
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
1585 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:06 am to
Destroy?
Posted by Steadmans Cheddar
Member since Dec 2019
1347 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:17 am to
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They just make up lies and use "anonymous" sources for fake stories. This has to stop but how do we hold them accountable?


Step one: identify a handful of news items where you can prove anonymous sources were fabricated.



Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:18 am to
Steadmans Cheddar: "What media problem?"
Posted by Steadmans Cheddar
Member since Dec 2019
1347 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:24 am to
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"What media problem?"


The first step in fixing a problem is to accurately assess or diagnose the problem.

If you have a couple handfuls of stories with fabricated sources, it would be helpful to see who wrote these stories, what outlets published them, etc. That way we know who to go after and how to counter the problem.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
5753 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:29 am to
He's goes to Huffpo as his source to prove Fox News is fake news? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5007 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:30 am to
quote:

Just some quick examples of Fox News acting insane and pushing some obviously fake stories.

I mean, in one of the examples on that list Glenn Beck literally tossed a frog into boiling water to prove a point (though the whole thing backfired when the frog didn’t jump out).




That whole article from huffpost you linked is weak. You should be ashamed. None of examples comes close to bountygate, much less Trump Russia collusion.
Posted by MidWestGuy
Illinois
Member since Nov 2018
782 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:31 am to
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I would start the fix where I could.

NPR:

Revamp the entire network and turn it into a non-biased news source. I would make every employee/broadcaster sign an oath of ethics and hold them to it.

This could be done pretty easily.


Nice idea, but no way. Who decides what is ethical? The NPR people all believe what they say is ethical.

Libel/Slander laws need to be enforced, or modified so that clear cases can be punished in a way that really hurts (w/o infringing free speech).
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:40 am to
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Use the libel statutes
The problem is, our courts have given media such a wide-birth to pitch false information that libel suits are difficult if not impossible to pull off.

The atrocity of coverage dealing with Nick Sandmann and the Covington kids is a great example. Only CNN settled. The Washington Post, which published multiple horribly libelous articles, came damn close to getting Sandmann's suit thrown out of court.

The Post published repeated crap targeting a junior in high school in the national press, crap that was clearly and definitively disproven by multiple video records and by witness accounts. It painted Nathan Phillips, a lying scumbag propagandist and agitator, as a completely innocent, pure, and very brave gentleman whom white high schoolers were racially harassing and trying to intimidate.

WasPo's coverage was a COMPLETE LIE! What is worse, the Post knew it. The Post knew what the truth was. Yet they continued to push a defaming narrative, many times over. All that, and a POS judge still threw the case out once, and tried to do it again.

NBC likewise tried to get its suit thrown out. Multiple politicians including Elizabeth Warren were sued. Those suits were thrown out.

Until the media is held accountable, this BS will continue. Think about the ridiculous position the courts hold. Anything the courts want to silence, they can.

The judicial bitch presiding over the Roger Stone case allowed Stone's accusers to fully vent their narrative. She allowed the press to repeatedly air the Stone early morning raid more reminiscent of Pablo Escobar's takedown than taking a single unarmed 67y/o in. But then, as Stone's Defense was ready to make HIS case, she issued a gag order. How in the love of Pete is that even possible?

Yet here we are!

The courts allow media to malignantly and willfully defame an innocent 16y/o kid. Yet, when uncomfortable critique targets them .... OH MY! We cannot have THAT!

It's an obscenity.
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