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re: So has the Felon who got shot in the arm, who also had a gun been arrested yet?

Posted on 8/29/20 at 12:55 pm to
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 8/29/20 at 12:55 pm to
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Anyone who has ever tried a case to a jury will agree.
Lin Wood says otherwise......do you know if he has ever tried a case in front of a jury before?
Please link to any statement by Wood comparing the three shootings to one another.

I will wait.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 12:55 pm to
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Their star witness is Apple iPhone.


An iphone is not a witness.

You're not much of an attorney if you think this is a case, this is a loser case.

Anyone that testifies is going to testify as to what everyone can see on the tape i.e. he was being attacked. The last incident the guy has a gun, its not random he just happened to be right there.

1. a criminal carrying a gun, which he probably wasn't suppose to have

2. was at a riot

3. appears to be trying to attack Rambo or intervening

4. he does try and put up his hands, but he has a gun

5. clearly lunges to the right, which looks aggressive either way to someone getting attacked

6. was shot once

7. guy kept the gun in his hand the whole time

There really isn't that difficult. The guy is actually lucky he is alive, I wouldn't have been as calm as Rambo Kyle.


This post was edited on 8/29/20 at 1:02 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 1:00 pm to
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An iphone is not a witness.

You're not much of an attorney if you think this is a case, this is a loser case.
Good Lord. Did I forget the sarcasm emoji?

For the 463rd time, I do not think this is anything other than a loser of a case for the prosecution (except the misdemeanor, which is not even a close call against you g Kyle).

I think Young Rittenhouse prevails on self-defense. That is not the point that was raised anywhere in this thread.

The points raised were “why has this guy not yet been arrested“ (MTR incoming) and “which is the more problematic of the three shootings” (the one that had not YET assaulted Kyle).
Posted by CheEngineer
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2019
4234 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 1:02 pm to
AggieHank86 Right now!
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 1:03 pm to
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The points raised were “why has this guy not yet been arrested“ (MTR incoming) and “which is the more problematic of the three shootings” (the one that had not YET assaulted Kyle).


I disagree with your assessment that the 3rd one is a problem.... actually its the easiest one.. the guy had a gun and was attacking or intervening.

That guy will have to be put on the stand, there simply isn't a case here.

This post was edited on 8/29/20 at 1:05 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 1:06 pm to
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I disagree with your assessment that the 3rd one is a problem...
1. actual, physical assault.
2. actual, physical assault
3. ambiguous video.

I disagree.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8219 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 1:07 pm to
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No one knows.

Of the three shootings, his is the most problematic for young Kyle on the issue of self defense.

Yes, he approached Kyle carring a weapon, but he has the same 2nd Amendment rights as anyone else. (Probation violation was not known to Rittenhouse.) The video does not show him pointing the weapon at Kyle, and he had his hands raised in submission.

This is the one that should worry the defense team.


No, the guy drew his gun, then hesitated with hands up. Then, he charged Kyle for his gun and got his bicep vaporized.

People have seen what a mob does when they catch the hunted.

This guy is going to walk if he gets put in front of a jury.
This post was edited on 8/30/20 at 10:40 am
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 1:12 pm to
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1. actual, physical assault.
2. actual, physical assault
3. ambiguous video.

I disagree.


You don't have to wait for a physical assault, the assault can actually happen as soon as the person feels physically harm might be done. The guy had a gun, never dropped the gun, actually went to the location of the incident with his gun and actually did not backup, he actually went forward.

Even if the guy didn't have a gun I think it was justified, it might not seem fair but the guy was getting hunted down and assaulted... in the content of the incident without the gun I think it was justified. The guy with the gun wasn't there to help, having the gun adds a slam dunk on top of the slam dunk.

The victim (I guess them can call him that ) will have to be up on the stand. This is a horrible case to prosecute.

I could never do what that kid did.
This post was edited on 8/29/20 at 1:16 pm
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5905 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 1:15 pm to
The defense will destroy busted wing boy, Bc he's a typical soy boy dolt. He spewd all of his shoulda, woulda, couldas out on the interwebs. Every second of every live feed, video, and social media post that was put out there will be gone over many times.

They will use his own words, plus video against him.
This post was edited on 8/29/20 at 1:20 pm
Posted by Kraut Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
4775 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 1:17 pm to


This post was edited on 1/9/21 at 10:11 am
Posted by carguymatt
Member since Aug 1998
Member since Jun 2015
1079 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 1:17 pm to
my guess is right now doctors are advising not to place him in handcuffs. Probably irritate his healing process somehow. Bless his heart
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
4276 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 1:18 pm to
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Please link to any statement by Wood comparing the three shootings to one another. I will wait.


Lol.....thanks for never answering the question.....has Lin Wood ever tried a case in front of a jury? You said anyone that has would know. So I ask, has he? Asking for a friend.

No comment from you on actually winning cases though I see, go figure.

I highly question your ability to break down the law in this case when an armed individual advances on an altercation with a weapon drawn and pointed at the defendant....and the guy then stated after surgery that he wishes he would have pulled the trigger quicker and killed Kyle.

You my friend, are a shitty lawyer. If you can’t represent those facts to a jury successfully, you should be disbarred.
Posted by texn
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Member since Nov 2019
4102 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 1:20 pm to
Wisconsin gun laws provide that concealed carry only if you have A license. I doubt Lefty had a license. And he was definitely carrying concealed.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 1:37 pm to
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honeybadger07
Good Lord, were you actually serious and asking me if Lin Wood has ever tried a case? Yes, obviously.

Likewise, I doubt you were seriously asking whether I have ever done so, because no matter my answer (unless it were no) you will assert that I am lying.

If you really want to know, the largest jury verdict in favor of my client on which I was a participant in the plaintiff team was low- to mid-eight figures, plus attorney fees and costs and interest that almost doubled the recovery. I was a fairly junior lawyer and handled only seven witnesses. It was a great learning experience.

On my own, the largest judgment I have received from a jury was in the mid six figures on a disputed probate. Yes, that case was on a contingency fee basis, and my share of the recovery was a bit more than a quarter million dollars.

Cue: LIAR!!!!
This post was edited on 8/29/20 at 2:05 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 1:38 pm to
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Lol.....thanks for never answering the question.....has Lin Wood ever tried a case in front of a jury? You said anyone that has would know. So I ask, has he? Asking for a friend.
So, now you need to answer my question. Where has Lin Wood ever expressed any opinion whatsoever on which of the three shootings is the more problematic for the claim of self-defense?
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
55872 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 1:45 pm to
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3. ambiguous video.

Wrong. In that video link I posted, at the 23:00 minute mark you can clearly see a freeze frame of Lefty pointing his handgun at the hero. If you don't want to look at the video and see it for yourself, that's on you.




This post was edited on 8/29/20 at 2:08 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 1:47 pm to
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1BIGTigerFan
I watched the video. How else could I have possibly said that it was a good frame by frame analysis?

None of which changes the fact that the 23 minute point out to which you make reference took place before he raised his hands in submission and has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on the self-defense claim.
Posted by BuzzSaw 12
The Dark Side Of The Moon
Member since Dec 2010
7027 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 1:50 pm to
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Of the three shootings, his is the most problematic for young Kyle on the issue of self defense.



You're an idiot. You would have us believe that the guy that approached him with a hand gun is more problematic for a self defense case as opposed to the first guy who kicked him in the head (attack by foot and didn't get shot) or the second guy who attacked him with a skateboard then tried to rip his rifle away from him (he got shot and will soon be taking a dirt nap)

Then you're guy number 3 who angrily comes at him with a damn gun and gets his arm blown off and number 3 is you're issue?

Let's see gun>skateboard>foot. No one with common sense will think any differently. If you're a lawyer you must be a real shitty lawyer.
Posted by Mrtommorrow1987
Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2008
13473 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 1:56 pm to
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There was a handgun discharged at that time based on the NYT’s video analysis. Was it his?


This ...... who wants to bet he was the person who discharged a bullet before Rittenhouse dropped JoJo the pedophile
Posted by Mrtommorrow1987
Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2008
13473 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 1:57 pm to
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which you make reference took place before he raised his hands in submission and has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on the self-defense claim.


Did you continue watching as he lunged forward with weapon in hand after raising hands in submission?
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