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re: So “First Man” is supposed to be a Armstrong & landing on the moon biopic- w/o USA Flag?
Posted on 8/31/18 at 7:38 pm to Brosef Stalin
Posted on 8/31/18 at 7:38 pm to Brosef Stalin
Can these Twitter fools keep Chuck Yeager out of it? We don't need a bunch of SJWs yelling at him to "do better"
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Posted on 8/31/18 at 7:39 pm to bmy
quote:
More faux outrage
Really? You don't think it's chicken shite just a little?
Posted on 8/31/18 at 7:42 pm to Covingtontiger77
The man has spoken
Chuck Yeager weighs in on 'First Man' flap: 'That's not the Neil Armstrong I knew'
Hollywood’s portrayal of astronaut Neil Armstrong in the biopic “First Man” was quick to elicit the attention on Friday of aviation legend Gen. Chuck Yeager.
Social media platforms lit up before the weekend as news spread that Ryan Gosling’s latest film does not include the American flag being planted on the moon. Critics fretted that “First Man” would essentially turn Mr. Armstrong into a progressive caricature when Mr. Yeager, 95, weighed in.
“Ryan Gosling is coming out with the movie First Man where it portrays Neil Armstrong as a liberal progressive anti-Trump (in spirit) non-flag waiver,” a user identified as @ClarenceSwirly wrote. “Probably agree with the National Anthem kneelers, too; at least in Hollywood’s liberal imagination. For your Info.”
“That’s not the Neil Armstrong I knew,” Mr. Yeager...
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Chuck Yeager weighs in on 'First Man' flap: 'That's not the Neil Armstrong I knew'
Hollywood’s portrayal of astronaut Neil Armstrong in the biopic “First Man” was quick to elicit the attention on Friday of aviation legend Gen. Chuck Yeager.
Social media platforms lit up before the weekend as news spread that Ryan Gosling’s latest film does not include the American flag being planted on the moon. Critics fretted that “First Man” would essentially turn Mr. Armstrong into a progressive caricature when Mr. Yeager, 95, weighed in.
“Ryan Gosling is coming out with the movie First Man where it portrays Neil Armstrong as a liberal progressive anti-Trump (in spirit) non-flag waiver,” a user identified as @ClarenceSwirly wrote. “Probably agree with the National Anthem kneelers, too; at least in Hollywood’s liberal imagination. For your Info.”
“That’s not the Neil Armstrong I knew,” Mr. Yeager...
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Posted on 8/31/18 at 7:45 pm to IT_Dawg
quote:calm down people, the flags are still on the suits, the rockets still say UNITED STATES in huge letters, theyre not erasing the US from this, everything is there as it happened, they simply didnt film that one scene.
Did they take the American flag off the side of the space suit too?
the movie is about what it took to get to the moon, not what we did after.
This post was edited on 8/31/18 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 8/31/18 at 7:51 pm to dr smartass phd
Gosling is going to have a few "Get Off My Lawn" types to deal with.
Living Apollo astronauts:
Frank Borman (90) - Gemini 7, Apollo 8
Jim Lovell (90) - Gemini 7, Gemini 12, Apollo 8, Apollo 13
Bill Anders (84) - Apollo 8
Tom Stafford (87) - Gemini 6A, Gemini 9A, Apollo 10, Apollo-Soyuz Test Project
Michael Collins (87) - Gemini 10, Apollo 11
Buzz Aldrin (88) - Gemini 12, Apollo 11
Fred Haise (84) - Apollo 13
David Scott (86) - Gemini 8, Apollo 9, Apollo 15
Al Worden (86) - Apollo 15
Charles Duke (82) - Apollo 16
Ken Mattingly (82) - Apollo 16, STS-4, STS-51-C
Harrison Schmidt (83) - Apollo 17
In addition, to Kranz and Kraft
Living Apollo astronauts:
Frank Borman (90) - Gemini 7, Apollo 8
Jim Lovell (90) - Gemini 7, Gemini 12, Apollo 8, Apollo 13
Bill Anders (84) - Apollo 8
Tom Stafford (87) - Gemini 6A, Gemini 9A, Apollo 10, Apollo-Soyuz Test Project
Michael Collins (87) - Gemini 10, Apollo 11
Buzz Aldrin (88) - Gemini 12, Apollo 11
Fred Haise (84) - Apollo 13
David Scott (86) - Gemini 8, Apollo 9, Apollo 15
Al Worden (86) - Apollo 15
Charles Duke (82) - Apollo 16
Ken Mattingly (82) - Apollo 16, STS-4, STS-51-C
Harrison Schmidt (83) - Apollo 17
In addition, to Kranz and Kraft
Posted on 8/31/18 at 7:59 pm to Brosef Stalin
quote:Probably none given how long he’s been dead.
I wonder how much time Gosling and Chazelle spent with Armstrong?
Regardless, Yeager is responding to some random guy who is trying to say that because they don’t show the flag planting that they are portraying Armstrong as some anti-Trump progressive.
Neither Chazelle nor Gosling are known as your typical “insert leftist politics into everything” Hollywood elitists. I specifically remember an interview before Chazelle’s Oscar win where he seemed to avoid getting political when the question was about the current political/cultural environment, which was only weeks after Trump was inaugurated. His wife even worked for a major business consulting firm, which isn’t really a place where prog mentality would be accepted.
And as it relates to Armstrong and the “global” achievement of the mission, here is a direct quote from the moon in an interview with Nixon:
quote:That was after his infamous “small step for man” quote. It wasn’t “anti-American.” He was a scientist, the first to explore the very beginnings of a frontier beyond earth itself that extends to a nearly incomprehensible distance with incomprehensible possibilities. Maybe he saw something that was just plain bigger than any man, nation, or blimp in time, with endless possibilities to benefit everyone. But that doesn’t mean he was denigrating any man, nation, or blimp in time either.
Thank you, Mr. President. It's a great honor and privilege for us to be here, representing not only the United States, but men of peace of all nations, and with interest and curiosity, and men with a vision for the future. It's an honor for us to be able to participate here today.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 8:06 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
He was a scientist
No, he was not. He was a naval aviator turned civilian test pilot. Harrison Schmidt is the one and only scientist to ever go to the moon.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 8:08 pm to dr smartass phd
quote:Well I get Ryan Gosling and Damien Chazelle would agree that Neil Armstrong was not:
Chuck Yeager weighs in on 'First Man' flap: 'That's not the Neil Armstrong I knew'
quote:This is some random person’s comment based solely on the lack of a flag planting that is more associated with Buzz Aldrin anyways since he has the infamous picture.
where it portrays Neil Armstrong as a liberal progressive anti-Trump (in spirit) non-flag waiver
Besides the planting was a messy and clumsy process, as told by Aldrin himself:
quote:So if they made a historically accurate representation of that, it wouldn’t have been some exciting moment many seem to want.
It took both of us to set it up and it was nearly a public relations disaster," he wrote. "A small telescoping arm was attached to the flagpole to keep the flag extended and perpendicular. As hard as we tried, the telescope wouldn't fully extend. Thus the flag which should have been flat had its own permanent wave."
Posted on 8/31/18 at 8:15 pm to buckeye_vol
FAKE FILM!
Posted on 8/31/18 at 8:18 pm to Covingtontiger77
Posted on 8/31/18 at 8:20 pm to autauga
quote:
What would Gosling do in a movie about this?
Posted on 8/31/18 at 8:33 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
So if they made a historically accurate representation of that, it wouldn’t have been some exciting moment many seem to want.
You're really bending over backwards to defend them removing a pretty big part of the moon landing. You definitely call yourself Canadian when you travel overseas
Posted on 8/31/18 at 8:36 pm to Covingtontiger77
quote:
AND THERE IT IS.
...the reason to avoid this movie.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 8:42 pm to MF Doom
quote:
Can these Twitter fools keep Chuck Yeager out of it? We don't need a bunch of SJWs yelling at him to "do better"
I think that old motherfricker can probably still handle them fine if need be.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 8:42 pm to RollTide1987
quote:He worked at the NACA (pre-NASA) research center after his limiting career, eventually becoming an experimental research pilot, then oversaw NASA research in aeronautics, before becoming a professor in aeronautical engineering at the University of Cincinnati where he worked in the Heimlich Project (with the Heimlich maneuver inventor) which eventually led to the Heimlich Micro Pump.
No, he was not. He was a naval aviator turned civilian test pilot. Harrison Schmidt is the one and only scientist to ever go to the moon.
Just as Gosling described, much of his post-NASA career (like at UC) isn’t very widely known since Armstrong tried very hard to stay out of the limelight.
I probably have more academic publications than Armstrong, since I can’t find a vita that lists any of his specific work even they exist, but he’s far more of a scientist than at any point in my career.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 8:47 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
He was a scientist, the first to explore the very beginnings of a frontier beyond earth itself that extends to a nearly incomprehensible distance with incomprehensible possibilities. Maybe he saw something that was just plain bigger than any man, nation, or blimp in time, with endless possibilities to benefit everyone. But that doesn’t mean he was denigrating any man, nation, or blimp in time either
Weird you're trying to infer his state of mind, and draw unfounded conclusions to contort yourself into defending a deliberate act of anti American sentiment. This is especially weird given the man chose to celebrate his achievement by driving a mother fricking old glory in the earth of his celestial conquest.
But that's just kind of your style these days.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 8:48 pm to Nguyener
quote:
Gosling said he didn’t think Armstrong “viewed himself as an American hero.” “
No reason to avoid history.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 8:48 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:The "infamous" picture was Armstrong's getting Aldrin posed, then taking the picture of him. Who the hell did you think took that photo?
a flag planting that is more associated with Buzz Aldrin anyways since he has the infamous picture.
quote:We'll see. Until the movie is out, characterizing it as "liberal" crap or "historically accurate" is silly.
historically accurate representation
The flag is up for discussion because Gosling made uninformed and imbecilic comments about it.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 8:52 pm to dcbl
Posted on 8/31/18 at 9:01 pm to MF Doom
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Neil Armstrong's sons defend moon landing film against flag critics
quote:I guess his sons and the author of the book (Armstrong’s official biographer) who have seen the movie are bending over backward too.
You're really bending over backwards to defend them removing a pretty big part of the moon landing.
Neil Armstrong's sons defend moon landing film against flag critics
quote:
In a joint statement on Friday, Rick and Mark Armstrong, along with "First Man" author James Hansen, denied that Chazelle's film was "anti-American in the slightest." "Quite the opposite," they said.
quote:
"This story is human and it is universal. Of course, it celebrates an America achievement. It also celebrates an achievement 'for all mankind,'" said the Armstrongs and Mr Hansen.
quote:O and apparently they show multiple shots of the flag on the moon:
"The filmmakers chose to focus on Neil looking back at the earth, his walk to Little West Crater, his unique, personal experience of completing this journey, a journey that has seen so many incredible highs and devastating lows."
quote:Just not the clumsy planting of the flag, that I’m sure is not what most people associate with the flag on the moon, and likely associate it with the photo of Aldrin and the flag.
Though "First Man" includes several shots showing the American flag on the moon, it does not depict the flag planting.
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