re: So everyone hates the government

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Keep voting party line, and you have no one to blame but yourself.

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Anyone voting for Democrats is supporting pure filth.

I'm not defending Republicans but they (some of them) are the lesser of evils.

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Trump was it.

But you and the rest are what i call insane. this country is finished.

I mean republicans voted for Joe Biden.

Think about that.

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I voted for Trump twice.

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Yet you all actively and continually support the same 2-party politicians.

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It's the Poli Board bro. 90% of this board is voting for the R nominee no matter what (Romney, McCain, GWB, Trump). Doesn't matter who they rollout there.

Constitution Party

Libertarian Party

Either of these are infinitely better than the Rs or Ds.

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Yet you all actively and continually support the same 2-party politicians

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Horse shite.

Outside of (more often than not) Rand Paul, they're all a bunch of Establishment Uniparty criminals that have defrauded us of our tax dollars for our entire lives. They're all unquestionably guilty of dereliction of duty, since the primary job of Congress is to pass a fricking balanced budget instead of ramming unconstitutional omnibus bills through that include pork, avoid transparency and circumvent Constitutional limitations.

If I had my way I'd see the American two-party system and all of its inhabitants razed to the ground and sent packing. Including Rand Paul, fwiw.

The quickest way to turn around the illegal and unethical trends of Congress would be to eliminate reelection eligibility if a balanced budget is not maintained throughout their individual terms, and to extend that ineligibility if the national deficit at any point in time exceeds 5% of the US' net worth. As citizens, we're not allowed to have our line of credit and debt exceed our net worth without facing devastating ramifications. Why should our government be any different?

Those devastating ramifications are coming for us all though, thanks in major part to our illustrious and exalted ruling class.

A $33,000,000,000,000 deficit is the definition of bankruptcy and is wholly inexcusable. There's no politician in DC that hasn't at some point contributed to this madness, even the "good ones". Don't blame me for supporting them though. 95% of the people I vote for, lose. The other 5% are politicians at the local level who actually do good things but will never ascend higher because they won't play the game.

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you all actively and continually support the same 2-party politicians

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I'll say it again. Horse shite. Don't speak for me.

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Definitely better than the marxists, but if they can’t win, it doesn’t really matter, does it?

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They'll never win if you don't start voting for them, donating money to them, and actively preaching their party platform to whomever you can. I do all I can for the Libertarian Party here in Alabama.

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Yet you all actively and continually support the same 2-party politicians. Even better, you try to bully and ridicule posters who are independent. God forbid we want politicians who are not slaves to parties and group-think. ‘Splain this to me please.

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Perot got a lot of 3rd party votes in 1992 and we ended up with Slick Willie.

This is the thread where people come up with excuse after excuse for voting for the same pieces of garbage in every election.

Math
Wasted votes
The system is too strong
Do it local not national

These are just excuses for cowardice.

Taking control of your nation was never going to be easy. As a people we have surrendered the nation to a den of snakes in DC and when it comes time to toss them out, we blink - then we get mad and call the Republicans cowards. Or the same is seen on the left with the Justice Democrats, their promises, going back on their promises, and the refusal of Dem voters to toss them out. Well, if you're voting for them, what does that make you? Certainly a coward, and also a dumbass. And it makes you complicit in the destruction of our nation. It's not theirs - it's ours. Take ownership of it.

Get your heads out of your asses, reach down and grab a pair, and find a way to vote for someone other than these pieces of garbage.

Do what you've always done, you get what you always got. All we've gotten is scumbag after scumbag and yet people still stand up and say, "I'm a proud Democrat" "I'm a proud Republican". No, you're just a coward and a clown. These assholes in the two parties laugh at you every day. This constant fighting among D and R voters is entertainment for them.

The nation belongs to you, the People, not to DC, not to the DNC or the RNC. Put your fricking big boy pants on and take a stand.

Stop being bitches for these two parties.

We have to pass it to find out what's in it.
We depended on the stupidity of the American people to get Obamacare passed.
You can't say you love your country and hate your government.
I can spend your money better than you.
Basket of deplorables.
If you need to worry about taking on the federal government, you need F-15s.
I am going to get assault weapons banned.

There was a 4000 page Omnibus bill that was to be voted on, and instead of debate, this is what congress was doing:


Stop voting for people that hate you.

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Get your heads out of your asses, reach down and grab a pair, and find a way to vote for someone other than these pieces of garbage.

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And deal with the consequences of those actions? Because the result is marxist democrat rule, and you know this. So if you are advocating for the destruction of this country, why not grow a pair yourself and stand with those stating as much, and calling for the collapse and revolution?

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These are just excuses for cowardice.

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Two can play this game...voting for an independent candidate is cowardly because it allows the voter to deflect any responsibility when the R or D that actually wins the election does something the voter doesn't like.

So, you go ahead and keep wasting your vote on someone that has no chance of affecting change because they will never get elected. The rest of us will continue to hold our noses and vote for the lesser of two evils.

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So its courageous voting for a third party that has absolutely no chance of winning, therefore ensuring the worst possible candidate is re-elected?

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You can’t change the system without actually doing something. Your mindset is defeatist.