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So Democrats care about the deficit now?

Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:29 am
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:29 am
I've been reading and hearing that Democrats are solid "No" if tax cuts profit the rich, or if the tax cuts increase the deficit

So after 8 years of doubling the deficit under Obama (with no pushback), Democrats are now all of a sudden fiscal hawks?

It's sad to see the hypocrisy here, but it doesn't suprise anyone. 20 Trillion in debt, and now Democrats are concerned of the "burden" that taxpayers have been feeling. Wow
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5253 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:32 am to
Or, to take your logic and reverse it to Republicans:
Republicans no longer care about the deficit.

Kind of like a game is being played in DC, and we're all the useful pawns.
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:33 am to
That's probably true, but wouldn't a booming economy pay for those cuts? Curious
Posted by TheHumanTornado
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2008
3762 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:33 am to
When has anyone not been concerned about the deficit? It is how its fixed that is the debate.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5253 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:35 am to
quote:

That's probably true, but wouldn't a booming economy pay for those cuts? Curious


Theoretically, but I don't trust DC to stop spending any time soon.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118683 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:36 am to
It will balloon the deficit.

Children will die.

Grandma will be thrown off the cliff.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:36 am to
No elected idiot gives a shite about the debt or deficit spending......this really isn't news
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12507 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:37 am to
Republicans are lowering taxes on businesses in a effort to get company's to come back to America and help small businesses grow.that would get more companies in the country paying taxes and more people working also paying taxes. If that happens there may not not be a deficit , we may even lower the deficit.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83525 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:39 am to
It's politics.

You are only concerned about the deficit when you are not the one controlling the money.
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
29215 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:40 am to
quote:

Or, to take your logic and reverse it to Republicans:
Republicans no longer care about the deficit.


This is the way I look at it...

I have come realize that there is 0 chance we will ever pay off our national debt. No politician will ever actually be willing or able to take the steps necessary.

With that in mind, if the deficit is going to continue to grow I'd much rather it be because more money is going back to the people who payed it in the first place as opposed to the government dolling it out to cronies and non-productive members of society.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84831 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:42 am to
so Republicans don;t care about the deficit now?
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:43 am to
quote:

No elected idiot gives a shite about the debt or deficit spending......this really isn't news
But that's not going to stop the geniuses on this board from blaming the "other" side.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:43 am to
quote:

Republicans are lowering taxes on businesses in a effort to get company's to come back to America and help small businesses grow.that would get more companies in the country paying taxes and more people working also paying taxes. If that happens there may not not be a deficit , we may even lower the deficit.



You swalled that nonsense hook line and sinker.

The Republicans are devising way to reward their base just as Obama did when he was in power, and the wheel goes round and round.

If either party was serious we would have a balanced budget amendment and an actual plan to reduce the outstanding debt.
Posted by TigahFrosh
Member since Sep 2017
133 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:44 am to
Firstly, the deficit decreased under Obama.

Secondly, you are clearly confusing deficit and debt.

Thirdly, the debt grew under Obama, but not disproportionately compared with other modern presidents.

Fourthly, the Republican plan, which will increase the deficit, will result in an increasing rate of growth for the debt, meaning it will grow faster under Trump than it did under Obama.

And finally, please take some time to learn at least the basic terminology of the economy (debt, deficit, surplus, gdp, etc) as well as some basic math (fractions, rates of change, etc) before trying to argue about it. You’ll save everyone, including yourself, a lot of time in the long run.

Cheers!
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:48 am to
quote:

It is how its fixed that is the debate.


It's sad that there's a debate.

Have less going out than is coming in.

That will mean cutting some programs or raising taxes.

Cutting programs is political suicide.
Raising taxes is political suicide.

Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42520 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:48 am to
quote:

Or, to take your logic and reverse it to Republicans:
Republicans no longer care about the deficit.


Well, one approach leads to a future of reducing the national debt

The other leads to exponential increases in national debt.

Lemmeeee see here - I am so confused - I may need to rely on some hard edged political catchphrase to guide my decision.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
35967 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:49 am to
The only politician the in my lifetime to genuinely care about the deficit is Ron Paul. Everyone else in D.C. is going to spend us into destruction.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16855 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:49 am to
quote:

So Democrats care about the deficit now?



The only time Democrats care about war, the economy, or the deficit is when a Republican is in the WH.
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4719 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:50 am to
Newsflash: nobody cares about the deficit in Washington.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42520 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:50 am to
quote:

quote:
That's probably true, but wouldn't a booming economy pay for those cuts? Curious

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Theoretically, but I don't trust DC to stop spending any time soon.


Now there is the true fear.

Unless we as a nation agree to stop passing the debt on to our great-grandchildren, nothing will change.
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