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So could pipelines minimize the importance of narrow straits?
Posted on 8/16/26 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 8/16/26 at 6:20 pm
Bab El Mandab and Hormuz could be obsolete or less important.
I understand that pump stations and terminals could be attacked.
But more options are becoming g available.
I understand that pump stations and terminals could be attacked.
But more options are becoming g available.
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Posted on 8/16/26 at 6:25 pm to dstone12
Saudi already has some alternate pipelines to the Red Sea. Saudi and UAE are constructing pipelines to the Gulf of Oman that should be in service within 2 yrs. Iraq is wanting to construct a pipeline to the Med but it goes through Syria, will need some guarantees of protection.
Posted on 8/16/26 at 6:28 pm to dstone12
I legitimately think it’s the only realistic option. Take the LONG view.
We’re not going to nuke or invade. Letting them put up tolls and control the strait (completely walking away) would be a catastrophe. The best thing we can do is make the strait obsolete.
Might take a long time but I think it’s the permanent solution. Build pipelines around, find alt routes for goods, continue expanding other forms of energy, it’ll all help.
It’s going to hurt for awhile but I think it’s the best option.
We’re not going to nuke or invade. Letting them put up tolls and control the strait (completely walking away) would be a catastrophe. The best thing we can do is make the strait obsolete.
Might take a long time but I think it’s the permanent solution. Build pipelines around, find alt routes for goods, continue expanding other forms of energy, it’ll all help.
It’s going to hurt for awhile but I think it’s the best option.
Posted on 8/16/26 at 6:28 pm to dstone12
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So could pipelines minimize the importance of narrow straits?
If ~20 miles is considered narrow then maybe
Posted on 8/16/26 at 6:41 pm to mwade91383
I guess my one question is this.
If we walk away from the straits and start using pipelines more, I ran and still sell oil to the Chinese and Russians. Correct?
If we walk away from the straits and start using pipelines more, I ran and still sell oil to the Chinese and Russians. Correct?
Posted on 8/16/26 at 6:42 pm to mwade91383
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We’re not going to nuke or invade. Letting them put up tolls and control the strait (completely walking away) would be a catastrophe. The best thing we can do is make the strait obsolete. Might take a long time but I think it’s the permanent solution. Build pipelines around, find alt routes for goods, continue expanding other forms of energy, it’ll all help. It’s going to hurt for awhile but I think it’s the best option.
Or we could have just not invaded. None of this was a problem 4 months ago. If it was such an imminent threat why haven’t we bypassed the straight already? I mean bibi has been telling us to bomb them for 30 years.
Posted on 8/16/26 at 6:55 pm to dstone12
Careful dstone12
I posted this yesterday afternoon -- requesting those who's gay lovers were cheating on them them, downvote the thread.
20 miserable figs showed themselves LMAO.
I posted this yesterday afternoon -- requesting those who's gay lovers were cheating on them them, downvote the thread.
20 miserable figs showed themselves LMAO.
Posted on 8/16/26 at 7:11 pm to dstone12
Pipelines are way more efficient. Iddition to not being near Iran
Posted on 8/16/26 at 7:14 pm to Zgeo
How do you protect hundreds of miles of pipeline from drone attacks etc?
Posted on 8/16/26 at 7:18 pm to dstone12
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the importance of narrow straits?
All straits are narrow.
Posted on 8/16/26 at 7:18 pm to Jbird
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How do you protect hundreds of miles of pipeline from drone attacks etc?
Bury it.
Posted on 8/16/26 at 7:18 pm to Jbird
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How do you protect hundreds of miles of pipeline from drone attacks etc?
Bury it. Preposition repair materials near pumping and transfer stations where generators, etc. may be above ground.
Posted on 8/16/26 at 7:19 pm to dstone12
Haha yall have some funny copes. Doesnt matter how many pipelines they build. The strait is 100x cheaper
Posted on 8/16/26 at 7:20 pm to tilco
I totally agree. Massive f*** up from Trump, total unforced error, probably biggest blunder of either term.
But the fact of the matter is this is where we are now. Trying to figure out what’s the best path forward from here, most options are bad…
But the fact of the matter is this is where we are now. Trying to figure out what’s the best path forward from here, most options are bad…
Posted on 8/16/26 at 7:21 pm to LemmyLives
So static areas are vulnerable over and over.
I get it's better than the Gulf but not a winner.
I get it's better than the Gulf but not a winner.
Posted on 8/16/26 at 7:22 pm to dstone12
Have your heard of Nord Stream 2?
Posted on 8/16/26 at 7:23 pm to dstone12
Well there’s the whole thing about all the ships carrying goods instead of oil
Posted on 8/16/26 at 7:27 pm to GetmorewithLes
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Saudi already has some alternate pipelines to the Red Sea. Saudi and UAE are constructing pipelines to the Gulf of Oman that should be in service within 2 yrs. Iraq is wanting to construct a pipeline to the Med but it goes through Syria, will need some guarantees of protection.
I think what we are witnessing in the middle east is a paradigm shift around the SOH. Even if the Iran war is a bust the new ways, which will take time will pay off in the future and make Iran less relevant in the oil world.
Same think with Ukraine. Trump seems to got the NATO countries off their arse and spend more on defense.
Posted on 8/16/26 at 7:36 pm to Zgeo
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Pipelines are way more efficient.
Pipelines are more efficient than oil tankers lol?
Posted on 8/16/26 at 7:57 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
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Pipelines are more efficient than oil tankers lol?
To get across ground and to different ports, then yeah.
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