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re: So apparently Cohen's lawyer went on Maddow last night and said Cohen had collusion info

Posted on 8/22/18 at 10:12 am to
Posted by asurob1
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Member since May 2009
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Posted on 8/22/18 at 10:12 am to
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Bottom line.

Trump's national security adviser, campaign chairman, deputy campaign chair, and personal hatchet man and lawyer are all now convicted criminals and Trump is an unindicted co-conspirator.

The first two Congressmen who endorsed Trump are now both under indictment.

Future indictments are probably coming for his original EPA head, and Secretary of Health and Human Services.


As I keep trying to tell Donnie's fan club who thought he was gonna "drain the swamp".

Donnie IS the swamp.

We haven't seen the last guilty plea.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7431 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 10:13 am to
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Are you under the impression that what Cohens ole deal says has ANY effect on Trump’s alleged culpability.


You're either a really bad lawyer or are playing dumb to the crowd here if you don't know what that plea deal leads to next. While it's illegal to use Trump's name in Cohen's plea deal, Trump is included as a conspirator on several counts.
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Member since Sep 2013
13540 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 10:15 am to
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Tax Return Maddow" show is talking about collusion...Collusion from a case that was referred to NY. If there was collusion, Mueller wouldn't give it to NY to deal with. That kind of info is what the whole Mueller things was started for in the first place.


I don’t know how our resident progs can’t seem to remember this whole point.

This all already went through Mueller - who by this point is desperate to dig up anything he possibly can on Trump for retribution - and he elected to punt it away to the SDNY.

Come on people.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9903 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 10:16 am to
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You side with this numb nuts over me...publically??


Sorry, man. I had to break omerta to bust your balls over your tendency to not read source material.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48314 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 10:18 am to
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You're either a really bad lawyer or are playing dumb to the crowd here if you don't know what that plea deal leads to next. While it's illegal to use Trump's name in Cohen's plea deal, Trump is included as a conspirator on several counts.


Huh? I just read the agreement that you posted. I didn’t see trump or any reference to him anywhere in it. What page and paragraph are you referring to?

You realize that you are saying “trump is included” because Cohen plead to something means that you think a potential co-defendants due process rights are eliminated because of a single plea agreement. I mean. That is insane.
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 10:19 am
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 8/22/18 at 10:18 am to
Honest Bob already has everything he needs from Cohen

He kicked this stuff down to SDNY
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48314 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 10:20 am to
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Sorry, man. I had to break omerta to bust your balls over your tendency to not read source material.


I finally read the actual plea agreement. I read it kind of quickly. I didn’t see any reference to a candidate or trump. Can you help me out. I know for sure you have dissected that thing.
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 8/22/18 at 10:52 am to
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Honest Bob already has everything he needs from Cohen

He kicked this stuff down to SDN


Ok, then Mueller has known about this stuff for a long time then. We’re supposed to believe that he’s sat on it for months and made no progress or mention of it, and for what purpose? What’s he waiting on, exactly? And if he’s waiting for some “grand reveal” (like I’m sure you’ll imply), then why punt the Cohen case? They haven’t waited to drop any of the other findings, and they weren’t even close to being on this level. You think Mueller isn’t just itching to bring some shite down on Trump after all the poking and prodding from Trump over the last year?

It just doesn’t make sense, which makes me believe there’s far more to the story.

And it’s fairly easy to tell when Trump is bothered by something or annoyed/angry, that’s one side effect of his ‘non-PC, willing to say anything, go to any lenghts’ personality in and out of the WH. If there’s one thing you can say about the man it’s that he pulls no punches in communicating. If you’ve seen the rally last night or his behavior since any of this has come out, dude’s clearly not worried.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112627 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 10:53 am to
You've essentially said you don't like Trump because he is mean. Meanwhile, the Democratic party is barreling 100mph towards socialism and that doesn't bother you a bit.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112627 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 10:54 am to
If Cohen had anything worth a shite, his lawyer would not be pimping a GoFundMe on TV.
Posted by BigAppleBucky
New York
Member since Jan 2014
1807 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 10:57 am to
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As I keep trying to tell Donnie's fan club who thought he was gonna "drain the swamp".

Donnie IS the swamp.

We haven't seen the last guilty plea.

He's swamped the drain
- Bill Maher
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112627 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 10:59 am to
Were you a big Hillary guy?
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14190 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 11:18 am to
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There is no established Russian connection to the Trump campaign.
I've posted this on here before, but maybe you didn't see it (or ignored it).

Roger Stone admitted that he had contact (direct messages on Twitter) with Guccifer 2.0. Stone also said the Podesta was going to be "the next person in the barrel" two weeks before the DNC emails were released, meaning he had knowledge of the hacked emails before they were released.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48314 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 11:19 am to
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Roger Stone admitted that he had contact (direct messages on Twitter) with Guccifer 2.0. Stone also said the Podesta was going to be "the next person in the barrel" two weeks before the DNC emails were released, meaning he had knowledge of the hacked emails before they were released.
. You have posted this before, but have never linked your source, as far as I can recall. What is your source?
Posted by BigAppleBucky
New York
Member since Jan 2014
1807 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 1:51 pm to
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Were you a big Hillary guy?


I never voted for Hillary in a primary. 2000 (US Senate) and 2008 & 2016 (President). I supported Bernie Sanders in 2016, would have supported Joe Biden.

My main reason? The hatred she engendered. Not by me, but by people like most of the posters here.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 2:47 pm to
Davis also made a strong case for destroying the credibility of Cohen. Saying that Cohen would never take a pardon from Trump - how much animus must you have against someone to refuse a pardon from that person, when you're looking at the majority of the rest of your life potentially in prison? You must really have an axe to grind to take that position.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 2:51 pm to
That lawyer is trying to push Trump into a pardon.

If there was ANY evidence that Trump was involved in hacking you can bet your last dollar that Adam Schiff would have already seen it and leaked it to the public.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 2:58 pm to
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My main reason? The hatred she engendered. Not by me, but by people like most of the posters here.

Hahaha
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