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re: So apparently Cohen's lawyer went on Maddow last night and said Cohen had collusion info
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:17 am to BBONDS25
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:17 am to BBONDS25
quote:See this is what I am talking about. You intentionally mischaracterize what people are saying and then argue against that false characterization.
Yet all of you are claiming trump is clearly guilty.
Wait a second...Maybe you are an attorney.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:19 am to BBONDS25
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Still waiting on the code section.
18 USC Part Skyscream: Interference with HerTurn shall be a felony for anyone associated with the HerTurn impediment.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:19 am to LSUTigersVCURams
This is nothing but gas bagging by Lying Lanny to keep the Mueller investigation from ending before the mid-terms.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:20 am to LSU Fan 90812
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I’d encourage you to go look it up. You seem like a good American who cares about things. IF TRUE, big if, these things are damning.
considering the facts that have come out about individuals in the DOJ,FBI, DNC. and all you want to talk about is Manafort, Trump but ignore the truly disgusting Deep State, that statement speaks volumes about you being a "good American"!
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:21 am to LSUTigersVCURams
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My observation is that
Goteeeeeemmmmm
This time
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:22 am to LSU Fan 90812
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the giving of information in furtherance of a campaign would constitute a donation.
No. It wouldn’t. It’s never been interpreted that way before. It never will be in the future.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:23 am to BBONDS25
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I think he is saying the communication doesn’t change the elements of the crime. Do you know what the elements of the crime you allege trump committted are? Can you list them? Did you not want to talk about crime/fraud exception anymore?
Sure, any conversation between Trump and Cohen about paying off these women wouldn't meet the attorney client privilege. This is because they are BOTH involved in a criminal act.
We know this exception didn't apply because the special master allowed these communications to be used by the prosecution.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:26 am to the808bass
sorry buddy but yes it is. Same as the loan situation with Cohen.
Trump is legally obligated to report donations. If Cohen loaned him money in advance, trump is obligated to report it, because his campaign benefits from the information NOT being out there.
In the same way, if I have damning info on an opponent. Think if it as free press vs paid advertisement. If the story just comes out, it’s free press. If info is bargained with in lieu of a paid advertisement to try to arrange a quid pro quo, the courts can assign a dollar value to that information.
Trump is legally obligated to report donations. If Cohen loaned him money in advance, trump is obligated to report it, because his campaign benefits from the information NOT being out there.
In the same way, if I have damning info on an opponent. Think if it as free press vs paid advertisement. If the story just comes out, it’s free press. If info is bargained with in lieu of a paid advertisement to try to arrange a quid pro quo, the courts can assign a dollar value to that information.
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 9:28 am
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:31 am to LSU Fan 90812
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Trump is legally obligated to report donations. If Cohen loaned him money in advance, trump is obligated to report it, because his campaign benefits from the information NOT being out there. In the same way, if I have damning info on an opponent, and that info is bargained with to try to arrange a quod pro quo, the courts can assign a dollar value to that information.
quote:DOJ for potentially committing a crime.”
Former Department of Justice spokesperson Matt Miller described the letter as “essentially a criminal referral to DOJ for Trump making a false statement in a previous financial disclosure.”
“Fascinated by OGE’s decision to make this referral public,” he continued. “Leaves DOJ no choice but to open at least a preliminary investigation into Trump for false statements (if he wasn’t already a subject in the Cohen inquiry, which he might be).”
Walter Shaub, the former Director of the Office of Government Ethics, went even further than Miller.
“This is tantamount to a criminal referral,” Shaub suggested. “OGE has effectively reported the president to
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Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:31 am to LSU Fan 90812
All right team of poli talkers, I’m checking out on this today. I genuinely care about this stuff and care about America. And even the people that seem to disagree. Even Bbonds
I hope it all gets sorted. Just trying my best to help everyone get a grasp based on my limited knowledge.
Have a nice day everyone.
I hope it all gets sorted. Just trying my best to help everyone get a grasp based on my limited knowledge.
Have a nice day everyone.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:32 am to LSU Fan 90812
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sorry buddy but yes it is.
So you’ll have no problem quoting a precedent.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:33 am to the808bass
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No. It wouldn’t. It’s never been interpreted that way before. It never will be in the future.
It just was with Cohen. I predict that members of the Trump org, AMI (National Enquirer), and Trump campaign will be indicted in these crimes.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:35 am to tigerinDC09
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DOJ for potentially committing a crime.”
So what is the Crime and penalty? How does said penalty apply to other campaigns who have been found guilty of Campaign finance laws?
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:35 am to mmmmmbeeer
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Did you hear this morning that Cohen advised his attorney to tell NPR that he WILL NOT accept a pardon from Trump?
And when did Trump offer him a pardon?
This is like the “Trump committed obstruction because he may have had a silent thought about firing Mueller”
Use your head!
Cohen is now at the mercy of the deep state. He committed crimes involving his taxi business that have nothing to do with Trump.
They would have given him the maximum penalty for those crimes unless he plead guilty to paying off a past lover of the President.
How can you not see how absurd this all is? They are charging him with influencing the outcome of an election for paying a past lover of his client.
Recall the fake yearbook signature re Judge Moore and the guy who admitted that he lied about Jim Jordan? The list goes ON and ON. And those 2 examples were of people paid to MAKE UP stuff about candidates. That’s worse. But again, NONE OF THIS IS NEW!
So this is all drama. Did Cohen commit crimes? Yes. But his crimes involved a taxi company. He has to either face time and have his assets liquidated for that or play along with the “guilty of influencing an election by silencing a lover” charge for 3 years time. He chose the latter & Now the mockingbird media has a new absurd talking point they can try to brainwash the people with, thanks to the deepstate giving Cohen 2 options.
They will not succeed in overthrowing our President for paying off a past lover.
And now that all the talking heads are saying a crime is a crime, we will be saying that right back at them when military tribunals are held for people like Brennan & Clapper. We will be saying that when the results of the new investigation into Hillary’s server and Benghazi come out. When the investigation of the Clinton Foundation and its “charity” come out. We will be saying a crime is a crime when the investigations into the Ohr’s, Yates, Lois, Barsoomian, Lynch, Wasserman-Schultz, McCabe, Priestap, Comey etc etc etc come out.
Cohen may have committed tax fraud with his taxi company, but these deep state demons have committed treason. Investigations are under way.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:35 am to tigerinDC09
No. You’re confused. I was addressing the claim that information is a campaign donation.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:37 am to berrycajun
quote:Poor little Qtard
And now that all the talking heads are saying a crime is a crime, we will be saying that right back at them when military tribunals are held for people like Brennan & Clapper. We will be saying that when the results of the new investigation into Hillary’s server and Benghazi come out. When the investigation of the Clinton Foundation and its “charity” come out. We will be saying a crime is a crime when the investigations into the Ohr’s, Yates, Lois, Barsoomian, Lynch, Wasserman-Schultz, McCabe, Priestap, Comey etc etc etc come out.
Cohen may have committed tax fraud with his taxi company, but these deep state demons have committed treason. Investigations are under way.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:37 am to BBONDS25
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I am, mostly, retired counsel.
And apparently for good reason.
Why in the frick is a goddamned lawyer asking me to point to legal codes broken when any responsible lawyer with a fricking iota of professional decorum or curiosity would have already read the plea agreement which cites each and every law broken?
Here ya go, champ...enjoy.
Cohen Plea Agreement
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:37 am to LSUTigersVCURams
So we got Lanny David talking to Rachel Maddow on MSNBC. Yep, better tell Maxine Watters to crank up that impeachment train.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:39 am to berrycajun
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Cohen is now at the mercy of the deep state. He committed crimes involving his taxi business that have nothing to do with Trump. They would have given him the maximum penalty for those crimes unless he plead guilty to paying off a past lover of the President. How can you not see how absurd this all is? They are charging him with influencing the outcome of an election for paying a past lover of his client.
They have become so obsessed with trying to find him guilty of anything that they can't see the forest for the trees. Even if guilty of Campaign finance laws, its a big nothing burger. Multiple campaigns have been found guilty and paid the fine. Fact is they cant see how absurd the actions of the govt and SC to try and get said conviction.
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