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re: So apparently Cohen's lawyer went on Maddow last night and said Cohen had collusion info

Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:40 am to
Posted by berrycajun
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
6903 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:40 am to
So are there not ongoing investigations into the FISA abuse and the servers and the Clinton Foundation? I’m retarded for stating a fact that makes you uncomfortable?

This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 9:41 am
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6215 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:40 am to
But Oboma and Hillary said to accept the results - the vote would be legit.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:40 am to
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So we got Lanny David talking to Rachel Maddow on MSNBC. Yep, better tell Maxine Watters to crank up that impeachment train.


He just said the same to Fox News, why should that matter?
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:41 am to
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So are there not ongoing investigations into the FISA abuse and the servers and the Clinton Foundation? I’m retarded for stating a fact that makes you uncomfortable?


Whataboutism
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7431 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:41 am to
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berrycajun


Holy shite! Fake yearbook signature? Only taxi medallion crimes? Deep state? Benghazi? Hillary's server?

Dude, for your own sanity, I strongly suggest you take a break from whatever the frick news you're reading, listening to, or watching and step back into reality. If you don't, I worry for your own safety when you come to the realization that the entire reality that's been built for you by snake oil salesmen comes crashing down around you. Your brain won't be able to handle it. You'll likely go insane or kill yourself.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73439 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:41 am to
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He just said the same to Fox News, why should that matter?

His publicity tour has hit multiple MSM outlets.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:42 am to
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But Oboma and Hillary said to accept the results - the vote would be legit.


A guy tells you see you tomorrow.

That guy gets murdered.

KillTheGophers: He's a liar!
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7431 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:43 am to
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So you’ll have no problem quoting a precedent.


Uh, John Edwards?

Which is kind of funny because Trump admonished Edwards over the case on Twitter at the time.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9903 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:44 am to
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Why in the frick is a goddamned lawyer asking me to point to legal codes broken when any responsible lawyer with a fricking iota of professional decorum or curiosity would have already read the plea agreement which cites each and every law broken?


He's our Bonds. That's just how he rolls.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111519 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:49 am to
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Uh, John Edwards?


Lol. John Edwards was found guilty of receiving information as a campaign donation?

Hell, Edwards used campaign money and not his own to payoff his side piece and he was found not guilty.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:52 am to
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I mean y'all can keep your heads in the sand, but what Davis said last night and this morning should scare the living frick out of any Trump loyalist. Ya boy's fixer and confidante has flipped on him and has a lot to tell, including treasonous cooperation with an enemy to turn an election using stolen information, hacking of voting infrastructure, and illegal campaign contributions to silence adulterous stories 2 weeks before an election he won by only 77,000 votes across three states.


Meh, just another attempt by a sore loser lefty who can't admit Hillary got her arse beat by Americans who voted for Trump.

quote:

I'd say it'd be best for him to just resign at this point but, he's not that big of an idiot, he'd be arrested as soon as he walked out the WH door.


Read my signature, bitch!
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48314 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:56 am to
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52 U.S. Code § 30121 - Contributions and donations by foreign nationals LINK the giving of information in furtherance of a campaign would constitute a donation.


Yikes. You have a citation to back up your claim that giving info is a donation. There has been one case, to my knowledge, in history where giving of information was considered a campaign contribution. The reasoning the court gave was that the person going the info was in the business of collecting and selling that info (polling) and there was an easily ascertainable value for the info (as he usually sold it).

In order for your claim to be correct, a court would have to find for a much much larger interpretation of contribution than has ever been applied before. Additionally, the court must look at facts in a light most favorable to the accused.

So you are saying a court, which must look at facts in a light most favorable to trump, would vastly expand a definition to include something that has never been included before. (And all of this is based upon the allegations of which there is no evidence being completely true).

yep. Air tight. Y’all got him now.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:57 am to
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Whataboutism


Nah, goodforthegooseism.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48314 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 10:00 am to
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Sure, any conversation between Trump and Cohen about paying off these women wouldn't meet the attorney client privilege. This is because they are BOTH involved in a criminal act.


The OP is about trumps alleged knowledge of Russian hacking. That is what you claimed would be subject to the crime fraud/exception. Try again.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48314 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 10:01 am to
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Wait a second...Maybe you are an attorney.


touché.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48314 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 10:04 am to
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Why in the frick is a goddamned lawyer asking me to point to legal codes broken when any responsible lawyer with a fricking iota of professional decorum or curiosity would have already read the plea agreement which cites each and every law broken?


I thought we were talking about Trumps alleged criminal acts. Are you under the impression that what Cohens ole deal says has ANY effect on Trump’s alleged culpability. That isn’t how it’s works. Good lord. You think basic due process is eliminated if one person pleads out? no wonder so many people think this is a much bigger deal than it is. You have no clue about basic legal principles. Much less moderately complicated ones.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48314 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 10:06 am to
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Uh, John Edwards?


first, John Edwards was acquitted. Second, John Edwards was never accused of receiving information which constituted a campaign contribution. You are having trouble keeping the issues separated.
Posted by BigAppleBucky
New York
Member since Jan 2014
1807 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 10:06 am to
Bottom line.

Trump's national security adviser, campaign chairman, deputy campaign chair, and personal hatchet man and lawyer are all now convicted criminals and Trump is an unindicted co-conspirator.

The first two Congressmen who endorsed Trump are now both under indictment.

Future indictments are probably coming for his original EPA head, and Secretary of Health and Human Services.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48314 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 10:08 am to
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He's our Bonds. That's just how he rolls.


Oh doc. How could you? Especially when I am correct. You side with this numb nuts over me...publically??




Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48314 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 10:11 am to
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and Trump is an unindicted co-conspirator.


What does this mean? Who makes this call? What are the elements sufficient to become one of these? What happens to someone given this moniker?

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